[quote] If you like either of these things in a sexual way I suggest you find help somewhere. No one will like you if you tell people beyond the internet.[/quote] And what of the people who had these kinks, and who got along just fine, before the creation of the Internet? You do know that humanity had lives pre-Internet? Some had/have self-loathing over their fetishes. Others are perfectly fine and have found a functional balance within their lives. Finding like-minded others on the Internet is only a recent development within the past 20 or so years. The human brain and mind are amazingly complex things and each person on the planet is similar to others and at the same time, unique amongst everyone. I personally find that to be fascinating, amazing and even comforting. That we're all not only capable of being so alike yet so different, and that we ARE so alike and yet so different.