originally posted in:Sociopaths United
[quote]OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — In their zeal to tout their faith in the public square, conservatives in Oklahoma may have unwittingly opened the door to a wide range of religious groups, including Satanists who are seeking to put their own statue next to a Ten Commandments monument outside the Statehouse.
The Republican-controlled Legislature in this state known as the buckle of the Bible Belt authorized the privately funded Ten Commandments monument in 2009, and it was placed on the Capitol grounds last year despite criticism from legal experts who questioned its constitutionality. The Oklahoma chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit seeking its removal.
But the New York-based Satanic Temple saw an opportunity. It notified the state's Capitol Preservation Commission that it wants to donate a monument and plans to submit one of several possible designs this month, said Lucien Greaves, a spokesman for the temple.
"We believe that all monuments should be in good taste and consistent with community standards," Greaves wrote in letter to state officials. "Our proposed monument, as an homage to the historic/literary Satan, will certainly abide by these guidelines."
Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, while another is meant to be an interactive display for children. He said he expects the monument, if approved by Oklahoma officials, would cost about $20,000.
Republican state Rep. Mike Ritze, who spearheaded the push for the Ten Commandments monument and whose family helped pay the $10,000 for its construction, declined to comment on the Satanic Temple's effort, but Greaves credited Ritze for opening the door to the group's proposal.
"He's helping a satanic agenda grow more than any of us possibly could," Greaves said. "You don't walk around and see too many satanic temples around, but when you open the door to public spaces for us, that's when you're going to see us."
The Oklahoma Legislature has taken other steps that many believe blur the line that divides church and state. The House speaker said he wants to build a chapel inside the Capitol to celebrate Oklahoma's "Judeo-Christian heritage." Several lawmakers have said they want to allow nativity scenes and other religious-themed symbols in public schools.
Republican Rep. Bobby Cleveland, who plans to introduce one such bill next year, said many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness. He dismissed the notion of Satanists erecting a monument at the Capitol.
"I think these Satanists are a different group," Cleveland said. "You put them under the nut category."
Brady Henderson, legal director for ACLU Oklahoma, said if state officials allow one type of religious expression, they must allow alternative forms of expression, although he said a better solution might be to allow none at all on state property.
"We would prefer to see Oklahoma's government officials work to faithfully serve our communities and improve the lives of Oklahomans instead of erecting granite monuments to show us all how righteous they are," Henderson said. "But if the Ten Commandments, with its overtly Christian message, is allowed to stay at the Capitol, the Satanic Temple's proposed monument cannot be rejected because of its different religious viewpoint."[/quote]I have to give the Satanists credit, they sure know how to rustle up conservative Jimmies. And they are making a very valid point with this, too.
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Interactive statue of Satan for children..... Well, the Christians do it.
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Lol this is -blam!-ing gold.
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Edited by qy: 6/20/2014 6:13:51 AMThis old thread. Whatever ended up happening? Did the legislature just sweep the other religions under the rug and plug their ears until people stopped caring? Or was something done one way or the other? Also,[quote]many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness[/quote] I deplore this "us vs them" and "we're being victimized" mentality. All should be fair and simple, with the separation of church and state. But then again, if that were really true, same-sex marriage would have been legalized long ago, considering the biggest argument against it is based on one singular set of religious beliefs. Many people seem to forget that part of the constitution. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against any religion. This is a matter of when people think they can control the lives of others, based on their beliefs and values, that is an indication that something is wrong and that special exceptions are being made. Like with this 10 commandments monument.
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[quote]Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, [b]while another is meant to be an interactive display for children.[/b][/quote] 10/10
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They should go to jail for this!!! Its sacrilege!!!
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Edited by Collii: 6/20/2014 5:46:15 AMI live in Oklahoma and this crap is crazy. It's getting out of hand...
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Well, satanists have killed far less people than christians.
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Edited by DELIVER ME MEMES: 12/8/2013 11:15:05 PMLOLxsides=gone. also, sure, why not?
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Started a new topic: Okla. Hindus seek monument by statehouse steps(1 Reply)
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Interactive devil statue for children?
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It was inevitable...
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Edited by FloodScientist: 12/8/2013 8:52:34 PM[quote]Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, while another is meant to be an interactive display for children.[/quote] Oh dear, my sides.
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Edited by Nul Arc: 12/8/2013 8:57:14 PMI love the fact that they think there should be a difference between their faith being represented and the satanists' faith.
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I would love to see this plan go through. If anything, it displays freedom of expression and a lack of discrimination by the government.
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This makes me laugh so much. I am a christian that supports a strong seperation of church and state, while alot of my family is the same as those that put up the commandment monument. They dont see past the bridge of there nose when it comes to this stuff, its not surprising that they didnt see this coming. These people are exactly right, if the christian monument is allowed to stay, the the satanist one should be allowed in, as long as its not as its not outright evil or disgusting in appearance.
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Edited by Engrapadora: 12/8/2013 8:05:38 PMThis is absolutely wonderful.
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10/10 They are masters of rustling.
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10/10 I'm not sure whether to laugh, or cry a little bit on the inside for humanity.
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[quote]"I think these Satanists are a different group," Cleveland said. "You put them under the nut category."[/quote] Well Mr. Cleveland, it seems we agree on something.
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Trolling 10.0
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Damn [i]Damn[/i] [i]Dayum[/i] [i]DAYUM[/i]
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God- er- Satanspeed to you, you magnificent bastards. I would seriously love to see this happen.
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Edited by SexyPiranha: 12/8/2013 6:35:52 PM*Lucien Greaves The perfect name for a satanist. . .too perfect. He had to have changed it or something. Also this is too perfect as well.
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I like this.