Myth 1: They just cut off a flap of skin.
Reality check: Not true. The foreskin is half of the penis's skin, not just a flap. In an adult man, the foreskin is 15 square inches of skin. In babies and children, the foreskin is adhered to the head of the penis with the same type of tissue that adheres fingernails to their nail beds. Removing it requires shoving a blunt probe between the foreskin and the head of the penis and then cutting down and around the whole penis
Myth 2: It doesn't hurt the baby.
Reality check: Wrong. In 1997, doctors in Canada did a study to see what type of anesthesia was most effective in relieving the pain of circumcision. As with any study, they needed a control group that received no anesthesia. The doctors quickly realized that the babies who were not anesthetized were in so much pain that it would be unethical to continue with the study. Even the best commonly available method of pain relief studied, the dorsal penile nerve block, did not block all the babies' pain. Some of the babies in the study were in such pain that they began choking and one even had a seizure.
Myth 3: My doctor uses anesthesia.
Reality check: Not necessarily. Most newborns do not receive adequate anesthesia. Only 45% of doctors who do circumcisions use any anesthesia at all. Obstetricians perform 70% of circumcisions and are least likely to use anesthesia - only 25% do. The most common reasons why they don't? They didn't think the procedure warranted it, and it takes too long (Stang 1998). A circumcision with adequate anesthesia takes a half-hour - if they brought your baby back sooner, he was in severe pain during the surgery.
Myth 4: Even if it is painful, the baby won't remember it.
Reality check: The body is a historical repository and remembers everything. The pain of circumcision causes a rewiring of the baby's brain so that he is more sensitive to pain later (Taddio 1997, Anand 2000). Circumcision also can cause post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression, anger, low self-esteem and problems with intimacy (Boyle 2002, Hammond 1999, Goldman 1999). Even with a lack of explicit memory and the inability to protest - does that make it right to inflict pain? Ethical guidelines for animal research whenever possible* - do babies deserve any less?
Myth 5: My baby slept right through it.
Reality check: Not possible without total anesthesia, which is not available. Even the dorsal penile nerve block leaves the underside of the penis receptive to pain. Babies go into shock, which though it looks like a quiet state, is actually the body's reaction to profound pain and distress. Nurses often tell the parents "He slept right through it" so as not to upset them. Who would want to hear that his or her baby was screaming in agony?
Myth 6: It doesn't cause the baby long-term harm.
Reality check: Incorrect. Removal of healthy tissue from a non-consenting patient is, in itself, harm (more on this point later). Circumcision has an array of risks and side effects. There is a 1-3% complication rate during the newborn period alone (Schwartz 1990). Here is a short list potential complications.
Meatal Stenosis: Many circumcised boys and men suffer from meatal stenosis. This is a narrowing of the urethra which can interfere with urination and require surgery to fix.
Adhesions. Circumcised babies can suffer from adhesions, where the foreskin remnants try to heal to the head of the penis in an area they are not supposed to grow on. Doctors treat these by ripping them open with no anesthesia.
Buried penis. Circumcision can lead to trapped or buried penis - too much skin is removed, and so the penis is forced inside the body. This can lead to problems in adulthood when the man does not have enough skin to have a comfortable erection. Some men even have their skin split open when they have an erection. There are even more sexual consequences, which we will address in a future post.
Infection. The circumcision wound can become infected. This is especially dangerous now with the prevalence of hospital-acquired multi-drug resistant bacteria.
Death. Babies can even die of circumcision. Over 100 newborns die each year in the USA, mostly from loss of blood and infection (Van Howe 1997 & 2004, Bollinger 2010).
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yay, another circumcision thread you guys sure love talking about dicks
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Edited by Codename 207: 9/22/2013 9:59:33 PM
Started a new topic: Just to make sure you guys know he's trolling...(12 Replies))
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OP cares about other guys junk. Let me show you my johnson OP, bask in its clean cut glory
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I really don't care.
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>this forum
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Gaara, do you even know what shock is, or what causes it? I'm being nit picky and it kinda bothers me when the term "shock" is misused.
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you've forgotten risk of amputation or sex change, OP.
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I don't understand the point of circumcision. Unless you are living in Africa you can wash a lil down there
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You shouldn't stop there OP. Still plenty of facts on how it's a violation of the infant's physical integrity, on the functions of the foreskin and benefits of being uncircumcised to go around.
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Well thought out and brilliant thread. 100 babies die from it every year and yet it's still legal. Give me a good reason why it's legal when it's nothing but causing pain and potentially deadly.
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The levels of butthurt in this thread are TOO DAMN HIGH!
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Drama queen.
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So what is the actual point in it?
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Butt-hurt cutfags ITT.
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Links or gtfo
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[quote]#guaranteedreplies[/quote]I'm beginning to think it's for the better that threads can't be marked as a hot topic anymore.
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Also from a whimsical freudian point of view - Why do you think so many Americans need Humvees and Big ol' guns? *snip snip* [spoiler]BTW - Most of freud's perverted work is a farce, however nothing rustles jimmies like his link everything to the penis envy/compensation idea.[/spoiler]
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I'll just leave this here. [quote]Even if you like that your parents had you cut doesn't make it right. If you did not consent to it, and there was no medical emergency that required it, [i]your parents violated your rights[/i] when they had your dick cut. Body integrity is a basic human right. That means that you are entitled to your whole body [i]even if other people don't agree with it[/i]. What is so wrong with respecting personal autonomy?[/quote]
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My parents felt It should only be done of needed. when I got older it ended up being needed, but I had a choice in treatment. My parents felt that it was my body so they let me make the choice. It was the right thing for me. But, I think it varies from person to person.
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Edited by Tartan 118: 9/22/2013 4:16:51 PMIs it Opposite Day, Gaara? My iPod automatically capitalised that. XD
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ITT: jimmies being severely rustled, bones being severely rattled, johnnies being severely rumbled
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Uh, yeah. Too long; didn't read. I don't really think [i]I[/i] would have wanted that cheese-generating flap hanging off of [i]my[/i] dick, but, keep crying if you really want that.
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Really didn't expect this kind of thread from you. Also lolbutthurtcutfags
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fact: non-circumcision higher chance of hpv
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Edited by Tyger: 9/22/2013 5:17:42 AMRustlesaurus Rex in its natural habitat