Theoretically assessing bnet based on individual experience should follow this pattern:
If you lurk, it is worse.
If you post (general sense), it is more gratifying. (Yay, pretty red numbers!)
If you want developed (key word, will explain) discussion, it is worse.
Reason being that the site is primarily designed with individual experience in mind. Take likes for example; invisible to all but the recipient. Take subthreads; they are a back and forth bouncing between users, using notifications. Take every thread; there is no overall course of development, only disconnected pockets of [b]focused interaction[/b].
BNext is a social network first and foremost, with [i]developed[/i] discussion of less importance than before.
What does this mean? Well, when Destiny arrives there is plenty of scope for people to buddy up, and have a discussion in their little pockets. BNext is super-inclusive. You want to talk? Ping someone. Unlike before, when you would most likely be ignored after posting, due to the sheer volume of contributions, you are far more likely to receive a reply and be able to hold an extended discussion. It nurtures the community in so far as it allows people to feel valued, make friends, and play games.
Okay, but what if I want a discussion with the [i]community as a whole[/i]? It is not impossible but it will not be as well developed as before. This is due to the muddle of post orders and lack of wider community inclusion (hence why lurking is less satisfying). You are better off seeking alternate venues for developed discussion, and using bnet as a means of interacting and being interacted with.
So there you go, BNext explained (at least as I see it). Better in some ways, worse in others. Different. Interpretation depends very much on your perspective and values.
While I have my brain going, a suggestion for how the two could both be present on site might be for groups to take on a different model to the mains. The mains would remain a social hub -which, let's face it, is going to be much better for gamers when Destiny launches- while also for the development some crave to still be possible on site in more focused groups. But perhaps that's way too complex. Food for thought, anyway.
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I agree in some aspects, but I question the value of "whole community" discussions. Experience with Halo sized communities suggests that this mostly results in bandwagon type posting and group think, mostly just noise. I do agree, however, that a larger "sphere" of discussion capability is necessary to make sure communities form and are interesting to both lurk and participate in. But the level of the "mains" is not that sphere, it is too big. As I've said before, this site is stage 1 of design to support a game you know little about. We'll get there, eventually. We appreciate the feedback.
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Nice assessment.
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This was a pathetic waste of your time.
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This escalated quickly.
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This seems pretty accurate to me. Thats why so many people are still complaining about Bungie.next, including myself. The old forum format allowed for community wide discussions, but it was often difficult for individuals to participate. The new format takes more of a social network approach, rewarding users when they get a reply or like. With the new replying system, discussion becomes limited to small discussion between individuals, but large community discussions are hard to achieve.
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This is very accurate, and we've been complaining about it since The Downgrade. Too bad people here are such -blam!-ing morons and won't even read it.
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I read the whole thing, it's actually pretty well written, great job.
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This was actually very well thought out. Nice one OP!
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I think you'd get a better response in #community I'd read it but I'm tired and The Empreror's New Groove is on
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WAIT WAT
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I farted
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OH MY GOD I'M A FAGG0T
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ur a fag
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I'll at least thank you for pointing out more grievances with it because I'm still not satisfied with how a lot here is done, but most everyone else is going to mock you for pointing out something fairly simple, so sorry for that but yeah.
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It's funny that you spent all that time typing that. Because I didn't read it.
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tl;dr