Ok to clarify, The P2P business model is fine for PC gamers who are accustomed to playing a few games. The P2P model however completely nullifies any previous attempts to market to the console gamers (Me). -The "Next-Gen" consoles will cost a pretty penny. -Both Online models will require their own subscription/ fee. -Console gamers also play many games regularly. All of these things further dissuade console to commit to a primary game which requires its own subscription (whatever the cost). Heck, only about 20% of console gamers even buy DLC. Zenimax has done some serious overhaul of Elder Scroll Online since their Console announcement. Most of those changes are to make the game more attractive to the millions of Xbox players that made Skyrim the 2nd most played Xbox game (behind Cod). (sorry PlayStation gamers, Bethesda left you to die). Basically, many of the PC gamers reading this will be unfazed by the $15 a month subscription fee, others like Console gamers just canceled their pre-orders. Not to jump into something I know little about, but the F2P model is generally redden with play-to-win advertisements and so on, making it an obvious bad choice. I think ZeniMax Online Studios and Bethesda should have gone with the Guild Wars: Buy then Play approach if they really wanted to avoid all this backlash