originally posted in:Secular Sevens
I see now, you are not allowing for the existence of a God/gods/universes that were void of life ect ect.
I am curious. Did you include these parameters.
Requirements Related to the Universe and Our Galaxy
Correct local abundance and distribution of dark matter
Correct relative abundances of different exotic mass particles
Correct decay rates of different exotic mass particles
Correct density of quasars
Correct density of giant galaxies in the early universe
Correct galaxy cluster size
Correct galaxy cluster density
Correct galaxy cluster location
Correct galaxy size
Correct galaxy type
Correct galaxy mass distribution
Correct size of galactic central bulge
Correct galaxy location
Correct variability of local dwarf galaxy absorption rate
Correct quantity of galactic dust
Correct giant star density in galaxy
Correct frequency of gamma ray bursts in galaxy
Correct star location relative to galactic center
Correct star distance from co-rotation circle of galaxy
Correct ratio of inner dark halo mass to stellar mass for galaxy
Correct star distance from closest spiral arm
Correct z-axis extremes of star’s orbit
Correct proximity of solar nebula to a normal type I supernova eruption
Correct timing of solar nebula formation relative to a normal type I supernova eruption
Correct proximity of solar nebula to a type II supernova eruption
Correct timing of solar nebula formation relative to type II supernova eruption
Correct timing of hypernovae eruptions
Correct number of hypernovae eruptions
Correct masses of stars that become hypernovae
Correct flux of cosmic ray protons
Correct variability of cosmic ray proton flux
Correct gas dispersal rate by companion stars, shock waves, and molecular cloud expansion in the Sun’s birthing star cluster
Correct number of stars in birthing cluster
Correct density of brown dwarfs
Correct number of giant galaxies in galaxy cluster
Correct number of large galaxies in galaxy cluster
Correct number of dwarf galaxies in galaxy cluster
Correct distance of galaxy’s corotation circle from center of galaxy
Correct rate of diffusion of heavy elements from galactic center out to the galaxy’s corotation circle
Correct outward migration of star relative to galactic center
Correct degree to which exotic matter self interacts
Correct average quantity of gas infused into the universe’s first star clusters
Correct level of supersonic turbulence in the infant universe
Correct number and sizes of intergalactic hydrogen gas clouds in galaxy’s vicinity
Correct average longevity of intergalactic hydrogen gas clouds in galaxy’s vicinity
Correct avoidance of apsidal phase locking in the orbits of planets in the planetary system
Correct number density of the first metal-free stars to form in the universe
Correct epoch during which the first metal-free stars form in cosmic history
Correct average circumstellar medium density for white dwarf red giant pairs
Correct number densities of metal-poor and extremely metal-poor galaxies
Correct rate of growth of central spheroid for the galaxy
Correct amount of gas infalling into the central core of the galaxy
Correct level of cooling of gas infalling into the central core of the galaxy
Correct heavy element abundance in the intracluster medium for the early universe
Correct rate of infall of intergalactic gas into emerging and growing galaxies during first five billion years of cosmic history
Correct pressure of the intra-galaxy-cluster medium
Correct proximity of solar nebula to a type I supernova whose core underwent significant gravitational collapse before carbon deflagration
Correct timing of solar nebula formation relative to a type I supernova whose core underwent significant gravitational collapse before carbon deflagrataion
Correct sizes of largest cosmic structures in the universe
Correct level of spiral substructure in spiral galaxy
Correct supernova eruption rate when galaxy is young
Correct zrange of rotation rates for stars are on the verge of becoming supernovae
Correct quantity of dust formed in the ejecta of Population III supernovae
Correct chemical composition of dust ejected by Population III stars
Correct time in cosmic history when the merging of galaxies peaks
Correct density of extragalactic intruder stars in solar neighborhood
Correct density of dust-exporting stars in solar neighborhood
Correct average rate of increase in galaxy sizes
Correct change in average rate of increase in galaxy sizes throughout cosmic history
Correct proximity of solar nebula to asymptotic giant branch stars
Correct timing of solar nebula formation relative to its close approach to asymptotic giant branch stars Correct quantity and proximity of gamma-ray burst events relative to emerging solar nebula
Correct proximity of superbubbles to planetary system during life epoch of life-support planet
Correct proximity of strong ultraviolet emitting stars to planetary system during life epoch of life-support planet
Correct quantity and proximity of galactic gamma-ray burst events relative to time window for intelligent life
Correct timing of star formation peak for the universe
Correct timing of star formation peak for the galaxy
Correct mass of the galaxy’s central black hole
Correct timing of the growth of the galaxy’s central black hole
Correct rate of in-spiraling gas into galaxy’s central black hole during life epoch
Correct distance from nearest giant galaxy
Correct distance from nearest Seyfert galaxy
Correct amount of mass loss by star in its youth
Correct rate of mass loss of star in its youth
Correct rate of mass loss by star during its middle age
Correct quantity of magnetars (proto-neutron stars with very strong magnetic fields) produced during galaxy’s history
Correct variation in coverage of star’s surface by faculae
Correct ratio of galaxy’s dark halo mass to its baryonic mass
Correct ratio of galaxy’s dark halo mass to its dark halo core mass
Correct galaxy cluster formation rate
Correct proximity of supernovae and hypernovae throughout history of planet and planetary system
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Correct tidal heating from neighboring galaxies Correct tidal heating from dark galactic and galaxy cluster halos Correct intensity and duration of galactic winds Correct density of dwarf galaxies in vicinity of home galaxy Correct amount of photoevaporation during planetary formation from parent star and other nearby stars Requirements Related to the Solar System Correct number and mass of planets in system suffering significant drift Correct orbital inclinations of companion planets in system Correct variation of orbital inclinations of companion planets Correct inclinations and eccentricities of nearby terrestrial planets Correct in-spiral rate of stars into black holes within parent galaxy Correct strength of magnetocentrifugally launched wind of parent star during its protostar era Correct degree to which the atmospheric composition of the planet departs from thermodynamic equilibrium Correct delivery rate of volatiles to planet from asteroid-comet belts during epoch of planet formation Correct amount of outward migration of Neptune Correct amount of outward migration of Uranus Correct star formation rate in parent star vicinity during history of that star Correct variation in star formation rate in parent star vicinity during history of that star Correct birth date of the star-planetary system Correct number of stars in system Correct number and timing of close encounters by nearby stars Correct proximity of close stellar encounters Correct masses of close stellar encounters Correct distance from nearest black hole Correct absorption rate of planets and planetismals by parent star Correct star age Correct star metallicity Correct ratio of 40K, 235,238U, 232Th to iron in star-planetary system Correct star orbital eccentricity Correct star mass Correct star luminosity change relative to speciation types & rates Correct star color Correct star rotation rate Correct rate of change in star rotation rate Correct star magnetic field Correct star magnetic field variability Correct stellar wind strength and variability Correct short period variation in parent star diameter Correct star’s carbon to oxygen ratio Correct star’s space velocity relative to Local Standard of Rest Correct star’s short term luminosity variability Correct star’s long term luminosity variability Correct amplitude and duration of star spot cycle Correct number & timing of solar system encounters with interstellar gas clouds and cloudlets Correct galactic tidal forces on planetary system Correct H3+ production Correct supernovae rates & locations Correct white dwarf binary types, rates, & locations Correct structure of comet cloud surrounding planetary system Correct polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon abundance in solar nebula Correct mass of Neptune Correct total mass of Kuiper Belt asteroids Correct mass distribution of Kuiper Belt asteroids Correct injection efficiency of shock wave material from nearby supernovae into collapsing molecular cloud that forms star and planetary system Correct number and sizes of planets and planetesimals consumed by star Correct variations in star’s diameter Correct level of spot production on star’s surface Correct variability of spot production on star’s surface Correct mass of outer gas giant planet relative to inner gas giant planet Correct Kozai oscillation level in planetary system
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Edited by Winy: 7/30/2013 5:57:55 PMHalf of these "parameters" are either: A. Absolutely not rare whatsoever, which makes your inclusion of them as astounding "parameters" completely moot. Or: B. Completely irrelevant to a system's ability to safely harbor life Furthermore, all that you did was list an enormous amount of astronomical terms, each of which can have direct affect (Or, in some cases, none at all) on various end results such as the composition and development of things completely uninteresting or philosophically dull. I could easily put up a just-as, if not more, lengthy list of concepts and say "Hey, if none of [i]these[/i] things happened, this [b]rock[/b] wouldn't be the same color!"
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Would you kindly a) stop responding to things I didn't say and b) making stupidly long posts in order to appeal to emotion, and instead make an actual logical argument for the existence of God? You know, ones with explicit premises, syllogisms, and conclusions?
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My wife had cancer in her colon, krohns disease, and siliac disease, she was prayed over and received healing, no open sores, no trace of cancer in her body, no more pain, and she can eat whatever she wants. This was all achieved through prayer to God in the name of Jesus Christ.
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[quote]This was all achieved through prayer to God in the name of Jesus Christ.[/quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
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Edited by Seggi: 7/30/2013 6:18:24 AMIt's a good thing you're not a member, so I can tell you that you're a damn moron.
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Confirmation Bias.
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If God existed, then he should have stopped Hurricane Katrina or the Japanese tsunami that claimed thousands of lives, unless this "God" of yours is a big asshole to people that aren't the "Majority".
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Just about everyone prays for their life-threatening diseases to be alleviated. So, when one person is very lucky and actually is cured, I'm supposed to believe that this is evidence for God?
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Then what healed her? All 3 were incurable.
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Let's take a look at the doctor's notes and interview her specialists before we jump to "God did it."
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Clearly they are not incurable, judging by the fact that they were cured. Or you could be a liar. If the situation you described is in fact impossible by any natural means, then there are two obvious conclusions I could draw: God exists and he/she cured her, or you're lying about the situation. Considering that there are a lot of liars out there, I find it easier to believe the latter.