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originally posted in:Secular Sevens
Edited by Mad Max:
7/30/2013 3:10:14 AM
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Are science and religion compatible?
Personally, I find the idea of simultaneous support for both religion and science wholly incompatible. Here's my thought process:
- Scientists support the [url=http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientific_method2.gif]scientific method[/url].
- Faith-based religion conflicts with the scientific method, as religion skips/ignores steps in the scientific method.
- One cannot support the scientific method while simultaneously supporting faith-based religion.
One cannot truly support both science and religion; you're compromising your support in one or the other.
Thoughts? Explain your position.
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6 RepliesAbsolutely. Science is the search of "how", while religion is the search of "why".
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3 RepliesWorship Science. Fix'd.
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10 RepliesI hope I'm not starting a flame war here but what if God made the Big Bang and science about stuff is true
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2 RepliesWhat if God...bare with me...is a super scientist of mega science.
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I don't think they "work" well together - they directly contradict each other in nearly all cases.
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I'm an atheist, but I support other people's views be it religious or not, nothing annoys me more then religious people or people who don't have religious views like atheist that won't let you believe what you want and have to argue, I enjoy when I hear people say that science is a way of explaining how god works, as it doesn't hurt anyone's beliefs.
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34 RepliesJust look at the internet and how Atheists worship every word some famous scientist says without question, WITHOUT EVEN TRULY UNDERSTANDING THE SCIENTIST'S PAPER. And then you turn to some Christian/theist doing the same thing to his Pope/religious text and say he's a moron. Most Atheists tend to do this and it pisses me the -blam!- off. [spoiler]Now if you're scientifically literate and can actually understand what the scientists are talking about, GOOD FOR YOU! I just hate it when somebody takes their word for it just like any theist does to their religion and spout "Atheists are smarter than theists hur dur!"[/spoiler]
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they are compatible for many parts in religion but the main reasons i can think of right now is eve was created by taking one of Adam's ribs now take a guess which bone has the most compatible DNA ill give you a hint THE RIB .and the other Adam was made from the red earth that dosn't mean he was made on mars he was made from Carbon and the human body is made mainly from what carbon religion created this thousands of years ago and science shows us that it not lies
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6 RepliesConsidering many famous and important scientists were/are religious then my answer is yes.
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4 RepliesI believe that the two are wholly compatible. We do not yet understand the many secrets of the universe... at all, and some of the things we are only just beginning to unravel are absolutely mind boggling. Many strange findings that have been made, the beautiful universe we exist in that looks insanely chaotic at first glance but after further inspection appears to have a kind of clear order to things, I find it hard not to see some kind of intelligent design to things. I can understand you not believing in a deity of some sort, but I don't really understand how you find that science and religion are incompatible or how faith in a deity will certainly compromise one's understanding of science or vice versa.
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Edited by Mac: 7/30/2013 6:46:31 AMThis is why people who don't know anything about the field of science shouldn't comment on it. The scientific method and the field of science aren't the same thing. The scientific method is simply a way to approach a hypothesis and come to a valid conclusion based on the data. The scientific method doesn't always work because there's always room for error, which is why you get things like flat earth theory, miasma theory, the geocentric model, etc. It looks like the OP wasn't able to contradict this, which was expected.
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I'm an engineer and not a scientist, but I enough enough about science to know that faith and science aren't incompatible. Having faith in a god doesn't really violate the scientific method because faith doesn't conform to it. I'm not a person of faith, but I can see why they would use god to fill in the blanks.
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7 RepliesI don't care if this makes me an idiot or ignorant, but no matter what anyone says, no matter who they are and what degrees they may have, I will continue to believe that the two are compatible in every sense. I'm not going to explain my position, as I don't want to argue over this, especially not on this site given that majority of the people here just want to create a giant circle jerk of arguments while saying "Nuh uh! You're wrong!" it's pretty childish and overall trivial. In short, I believe (and will continue to do so) that the two are compatible and that you can support both without compromising the other (I've had many teachers that were good examples of that).
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3 RepliesYes.. I believe God made the world, and I use science to study it and unlock it's greater majesty.
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34 RepliesOf course, all real forms of science exist because God created them in the first place. You can't have Absolutes without an absolute being that has always existed.
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Science and religion as worldviews are incompatible yes.
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I'd like to think so. Why can't I believe in God but also believe that evolution and anything else sciency is real? :P
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Some religions are. So yes. I just like personal freedom. Go believe a panda ate a duck and pooped out the universe. Won't hurt my feelings.
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Edited by magicmagininja: 8/9/2013 11:40:43 PMwrong thread lel
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2 RepliesAlbert Einstein had some thought provoking words on this: "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. A person who is religiously enlightened appears to me to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings and aspirations to which he clings because of their super-personal value. It seems to me that what is important is the force of this superpersonal content ... regardless of whether any attempt is made to unite this content with a Divine Being, for otherwise it would not be possible to count Buddha and Spinoza as religious personalities. Accordingly a religious person is devout in the sense that he has no doubt of the significance of those super-personal objects and goals which neither require nor are capable of rational foundation ... In this sense religion is the age-old endeavor of mankind to become clearly and completely conscious of these values and goals and constantly to strengthen and extend their effect. If one conceives of religion and science according to these definitions then a conflict between them appears impossible. For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be..."
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Religious circumcision exists, no.
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3 RepliesScience doesn't disprove the existence of deities, nor is that its goal.
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7 RepliesI support scientology and also go by the rule of 'if a nerd scientist says it aint real because they havent seen it them selves they will try to disprove it' and even when they do see it they want to find a more satisfactory answer for their egos
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2 RepliesNo they are not. Religion is the idea that you can hold belief without evidence. That fact alone, means that you cannot be scientifically minded, and religious. A scientific evaluation of religion will always conclude there is no reason to believe.
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6 RepliesJust ask Thomas Aquinas
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Not at aperture science!
