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Edited by CrazzySnipe55: 7/5/2013 5:21:15 AM
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America is not the piece of shit you think it is.

No, America is not the shithole that Europeans do constantly depict it to be. It's one of three big* countries in the top fifteen countries organized by GDP per capita, and the highest on the list of the three (the other two being Canada and then Australia). We're the entertainment capital of the world. Lots of the movies and movie stars you Europeans know and love are from America (and sometimes Canada). I don't even have to mention that The majority of the European continent (I.E. the E.U.) only produces 1 trillion dollars more in GDP than the U.S. (16t versus 15t). And, three of our states -- yes, just states -- if they were to secede, would be in the top 15 countries in the world in terms of GDP (California, Texas, and New York). And you say our economy's shit? It's just not as amazing as it used to be. The dollar is still the most widely held currency of any government around the world. America, along with Russia, was the main force that ended the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] regime and World War's one and two. Yes, we've caused more than our fair share of international incidence from the butting-in of our military into places it shouldn't be, but I'm pretty sure basically ending both world wars makes up for that at least a little. The Fourth is all about the Declaration of Independence and, by extension, the American Revolution, yeah? Let's think about that for a second. The United States' government -- a representative democratic republic -- has, these days, become the token government of any developed country. How many well-off countries these days don't have a Republican government? Also, the American Revolution was the basis and driving force and spark of all the other great revolutions that happened in the 18th and 19th centuries (the Haitian, the Mexican, and the French). Video Games! Everybody loves Video Games! You know, the things that started in, flourished in, crashed in, recovered in, and, from a game developer's standpoint, are now based mostly in the U.S.? Again, the U.S. is the entertainment capital of the world. Don't shit where you eat, folks. So, any other (well-thought-out) reasons why America isn't as bad as people make it out to be? Here, I'll get a few token ones out of the way: 1. "You hate gay people" 2. "The NSA is invading your lives" 3. "Your military is too big" 4. "You get involved in military conflicts that you should not be involved in" *big is defined, by me, as more than 10,000,000 citizens

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  • The NSA thing is not as much of an issue as people make it out to be. The Wall Street Journal had a perfect editorial on it: [quote]'Big Brother' and Big Data [/quote] [quote]Over the last 72 hours Americans have learned more about the National Security Agency's surveillance programs, whose quasi-exposure appears to be a bombshell without a bomb. The political reaction is no saner as a result, but perhaps reality and substance will eventually prevail. President Obama emerged to defend the NSA on Friday, noting that his assessment of the programs that originated under his predecessor was "that on, you know, net, it was worth us doing" because "they help us prevent terrorist attacks." He also invited a debate about how we are "striking this balance between the need to keep the American people safe and our concerns about privacy, because there are some trade-offs involved." Mr. Obama is conceding too much to the folks who imagine the government is compiling dossiers on citizens and listening to calls a la "The Lives of Others." The NSA is collecting "metadata"—logs of calls received and sent, and other types of data about data for credit card transactions and online communications. Americans now generate a staggering amount of such information—about 161 exabytes per year, equal to the information stored in 37,000 Libraries of Congress. Organizing and making sense of this raw material is now possible given advances in information technology, high-performance computing and storage capacity. The field known as "big data" is revolutionizing everything from retail to traffic patterns to epidemiology. Mr. Obama waved off fears of "Big Brother" but he might have mentioned that the paradox of data-mining is that the more such information the government collects the less of an intrusion it is. These data sets are so large that only algorithms can understand them. The search is for trends, patterns, associations, networks. They are not in that sense invasions of individual privacy at all. If the NSA isn't scrubbing vast amounts of data, then it can't discover who is potentially a threat. The alternative to automated sweeps is more pervasive use of lower-tech methods like wiretaps, tracking and searches—in a word, invasions of persons rather than statistical probabilities. The political attack on data-mining could increase rather than alleviate the risk to individual rights. We also know that this entire process is flyspecked by the special court created by the 2008 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, which was most recently amended in December with little controversy or even media notice. Our view is that FISA is an encroachment on core executive war powers, but weren't FISA judges supposed to be the check on President Bush and his mad spymasters? Liberals claimed the scandal over "warrantless wiretaps" was about the warrants, not the wiretaps. Now that they have the warrants they're denouncing the wiretaps. We've also learned through some very sketchy reporting about another NSA program code-named Prism. This appears to be an adaptation of the Bush-era program that intercepted foreign-to-foreign calls that happened to pass through U.S. switching networks. Mr. Obama says it is only aimed at foreigners. Prism appears to be designed to retrieve foreign communications like emails and digital files from major technology companies. Though the Washington Post and the Guardian newspaper reported otherwise, the NSA says it doesn't have direct access to the servers of these providers and they only turn over information about foreign targets located outside the U.S. when ordered to do so by the FISA court. While some information on Americans is inevitably grabbed, court-approved "minimization" procedures are designed to limit and dispose of that collection—and disseminating it is prohibited. The more coherent critics concede that all of this is legal and constitutional but say it is nonetheless an amorphous infringement of civil liberties. Like any government power, it can be abused. But note that Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old who proudly claims he exposed these surveillance programs, has provided no evidence of their abuse. U.S. officials say NSA's data-mining uncovered the Najibullah Zazi plot to bomb the New York City subway, while critics insinuate that this might be a lie because the details are "classified." We agree too much is classified but in this case that is so terrorists don't know how we might catch them. What our self-styled civil libertarians should really fear is another successful terror attack like 9/11, or one with WMD. Then the political responses could include biometric national ID cards, curfews, surveillance drones over the homeland, and even mass roundups of ethnic or religious groups. Practices like data-mining save lives, and in doing so they protect against far greater intrusions on individual freedom.[/quote]

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