[url=https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-creationism-and-intelligent-design-science-classroom-federal-law/pNY6mCBg]Oh boy, this is gonna shake some feathers[/url]
So what do you guys think about this? Are you in favor or not?
I don't think it's that bad, it's only in the science classroom which seems about right seeing at creationism and intelligent design has no solid evidence to support. So it doesn't really hold any place in a science class. These ideas can just be taught in RS, right?
[i]Edit: Please try to avoid flaming one another, if you're gonna debate something try to keep is civilized and respectful with a well thought out argument, don't just act all aggressive. Just because someone does not share the same view as you, does not mean their opinion is any less valid. Let's try and keep the ninja's work to a minimum.[/i]
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Teaching non-scientific and completely invalid claims is ridiculous. It doesn't mean you can't have your faith. You simply can't be apart of the modern world and never change your views. People need a set of core values but you need to be able to change and adapt. Doing so means being able to admit you're wrong and having a rational mind.
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Edited by Ad Hoc: 6/24/2013 10:00:29 AMI think it's totally fine to ban it in public schools because [b]IT'S NOT SCIENCE.[/b] If you want religion, go to church. It might be a bit far to ban it in private schools, but maybe not. I'll have to think about it.
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Edited by Omega117a: 6/20/2013 5:32:01 PMNeither should have ever been taught. No evidence. No observation. Based on religious beliefs. It isn't science. It is absolute religious bullshit made to lead more to the idiocy of religion. The end.
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Dear USA, you now hold the keys to your redemption in the yes of the rest of the world. Use this opportunity wisely. Language too complicated? Go sign now!
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Religion ideologies should be taught in Religious Studies. Kinda stupid that its taught in a science class.
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Won't hold water. Too many religious people still about the school. Also, you shouldn't ban the teaching of anything... if you're doing teaching right. Education is about the exposure of ideas to create intellectually diverse students-for-life who have great problem-solving abilities.
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I'm actually considering creating an account to sign this one...while I respect the beliefs of others, such theories hold no place as being taught as scientific. If they want to teach such things in purely optional elective courses for religious studies, i'm okay with that, but nothing that should be mandatory.
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Religion in a science classroom? The concept of scientific theory, including that of evolution, is any idea that is consistent with an applicable model to go along with it- no science claims to be a 100% true, but it's consistent with what the calculations and numbers interpret it as. Religion is subjective while scientific theory is based on evidence and numerical values. In my science lectures never have there been conflicting religious ideals, only the mention of how the constraints of religion set tighter boundaries for how far individuals can explore certain subject matter.
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People still believe this shit? Seriously?
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Do you mean to tell me that creationism [i]is currently[/i] taught in schools? lol
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Religion does not belong in a science class.
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I don't like it. It's fine to teach evolution as fact, but not creationism? You can't teach one belief system as fact and then refuse to teach about others. The classroom has to be neutral.
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Hypothetically, science's belief of how the universe began is a theory. They're not saying it's true -they're not saying it's definitely what happened. It's there to help understand everything else in science. The study of space relies on the theory of how the universe began. Besides, I find a universe of explosions far more interesting than a guy saying "Let there be light" and everything started existing.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson on intelligent design.
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I highly discourage this
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I'd support that being banned.
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I'm so glad I live in a country that doesn't think evolution, creationism and ID should be taught equally in science classes.
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Good... Good....
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I think all of you should read the short story called "the last question" or something like that. I choose to believe we were all created by a super computer that resides in hyper space that was created by computers that were created by humans hundreds of billions upon billions of years ago.
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Isn't intelligent design the same as evolution only God was involved?
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They either teach all religions, even Satanism, or none.
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How come it's always the Christian creation story that people want taught? Why not Norse? Native American? Chinese? Samoan?
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Only here in America we need to petition our government to stop this madness. In Europe and elsewhere in the world it is the obvious course of action.
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Ban the teaching in public schools? Sure. Ban the teaching in general? We don't live in 1940 Germany.
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Not in science classes. Not now. Not ever.
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I'd be fine with them being taught, provided it's not in a science class and it's prefaced with "By the way, this is all factually incorrect, but some people still believe it."