EDIT: I'm not discussing Bioshock or its ideology. I'm merely using this game as an example to debate politics and wether democracy reigns or republic.
Bioshock, a game with a wonderful story; a story between two rivaling political parties, the scandals within, and surviving the madness that ensues when people start splicing their DNA. But what of those two rivaling political parties? When are they on about? I'm here to tell you for I have the voice to do so.
Both political parties are aimed at the big picture and each party bares the question: in whose hands is society better off? What will the people do if we tell them they can be whatever they want to be? What will the people do if we tell them to be the best they can be? One side is lead by Republican Andrew Ryan and the other side is lead by Democrat Frank Fontaine.
Republican Andrew Ryan tells us that sitting at home and watching TV is wasting our potential when we could be following our passions and composing the world's next best musical piece or perhaps developing a cure as a scientist. his view is not unreasonable and prompts people to be the best they can be.
Democrat Frank Fontaine while a corrupt leader he still makes a valid point. If we tell people they should get off the couch, what happens when they want to sit down in comfort for another few minutes? What happens when they don't want to be told what to do? If you want to sit at home and waste your life, that's your prerogative. If you want to compose the world's best musical piece or develop a cure, that's your prerogative; let the people liberate themselves. This view is not unreasonable.
The two views, however, contradict each other and that's what sparks debate. If we tell people to liberate themselves then you will end up with more people who aren't putting their life to good use. After all, life is a terrible thing to waste. But if we tell people what they should do with their life, they rebel or become a bunch of stuck-up assholes with no diversity in flavor. So I ask you Flood, which side do you think has the better point and do you think there's a compromise?
EDIT: I'm not discussing Bioshock or its ideology. I'm merely using this game as an example to debate politics and wether democracy reigns or republic.
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Edited by DarkSpyda04: 6/16/2013 7:09:58 PMI don't get it. I come to a thread to discuss politics and people discuss a game's ideology. Now if you ask me what I believe; I believe in the right to choose. Do we want to be a republican or do we want to be a democrat? Do we want extra sugar in our coffee or do we want to preserve the original flavor? Do we want to believe in a religon? What religon do we want to be? You might call me a democrat and while I still acknowledge the Republican's view I don't think it's right to force people to be something, even if it means they end up wasting their life. Currently I'm still pondering if there's a better train of logic other than the two of them. EDIT: ...stupid Flood. Sometimes I love you guys for the humor you offer, sometimes I hate you guys for not contributing anything to a thought-provoking topic.
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Andrew Ryan was definitely not Republican minded. Frank Fontaine was not Democratic minded. However, to make it more accurately, the persona of Atlas was Democratic, although it was a ruse.
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The two party system has been infiltrated by puppets. Vote Third Party.
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Edited by DarkSpyda04: 6/16/2013 4:37:02 PMI did not come here to discuss Bioshock's ideology. I did not come here to talk about splicers. I came here to discuss whether democracy reigns or republic.
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I think you misunderstood the point of the Bioshock narrative. I recommend reading Ayn Rand's "Fountainhead."
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Wow, you could not have misinterpreted or misrepresented the ideological struggle in Rapture any worse than you did here.
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Edited by DarkSpyda04: 6/16/2013 4:27:57 PMI was in the Justice League - Ask Me Anything - 66 replies Anime is for fagg0ts! - 44 replies Don't you just love being tickled? - Hell, even that has 6 replies Bioshock 1: Let's argue the big picture - 0 replies. Am I missing something or do I just not know how to grab your attention?