inb4.... OT: I suspect (truly suspect, but don't know) that much like Destiny, there is something planned for groups and we're just waiting on a reveal. But as to groups "being like they used to", especially as far as the two things that they sort of evolved into? (A place to go when waiting out a ban, or a place to hang out and do things that we're allowed in the public forums) I don't expect those aspects to come back, ever. I'm imagining features that integrate into Destiny, friends lists, and similar things. The admin control features and abilities admittedly need some beefing, and I am looking forward to those as well.