"Without Engineers, science is just philosophy" - random quote i saw on the internet. It seems theres some misconception as to what engineers do. They dont take ideas from scientists and apply them to real word situations. Nowadays the engineers are the ones that come up with a concept, and develop that concept into a reality. zero scientists involved. at most the only help an engineer would get from a scientist in developing something, would be data on properties of a certain material. Like the strength of a steel alloy over certain temperatures.