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This has bothering me for a while now. I've been struggling with trying to find a good justification for my position on animal rights. To simplify my position in a single sentence, I think it's unethical for humans to kill/torture any animals that are "cute", but it's ok to do so to "ugly" animals. And for some time I've come to the conclusion that my justification sucks, but I found it too difficult to try to find a better justification, and way too painful to simply change my position entirely. So I've been ignoring the subject entirely until now. And since I can't stop thinking about it now, I really need to find to find a logical standpoint with logical justifications so that my mind can be at ease. And I think you guys can help me.
So, Secular Sevens + The public forum people, I would like to know your positions on animal rights and your justifications.
EDIT: My stance has changed and I'm currently working on defining/polishing it.
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I too have had hard time justifying my desire for meat. Here are some points I'd like to bring forth: 1. We need to eat. The whole need for a justification for eating meat is because we have started to compare ourselves with animal and started to grant them some "human rights". I think this should work both ways. As animals have the right to eat meat in order to stay alive so should we. After reading that, the token vegans among us will say "But we DON'T HAVE TO eat meat!". To that I say: "tigers can eat tofu too". 2. What is a good life and what isn't? Is a bad life better than no life at all? There are 2 possibilities. Either the cow you'll eat gets born, has a decent life on cow standards and gets to be eaten by you OR it won't be born in the first place. The reason we have cows, chicken and pigs is that we eat them. If we would all stop eating meat they would go extinct. Well, we'd perhaps still eat eggs and drink milk(if that isn't immoral too then?) but the cows and chicken producing the fore mentioned products would still die naturally and what is the difference in that to having them to die for food in the first place?