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This is an honest question from an atheist to those who believe in any kind of religion or more general 'spirituality.'
In my debates with religious folks, the word 'faith' comes up rather often. Whenever I bring up my perceived lack of evidence for a particular belief, or logical inconsistency of the argument they use to support a notion, they'll say "People just have to have faith," or something to the effect of "If God showed himself, what would be left to have faith in?"
So my question is this: [b]Why is faith something to be valued?[/b] Why should one [i]want[/i] to believe in something for which they have no supporting evidence or argument? How is the act of accepting the truth of a notion despite having no reason to do so beneficial or desirable in any way?
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Edited by Wyldfyre: 4/13/2013 4:14:23 PMIt isn't. The idiots who are comparing faith of religion to faith in science need to learn the difference between observable and reproducible studies and single mentions of absurd miracles from centuries ago which were never even hinted at since or by anything else. Almost everyone has the potential to get into science, learn the methods and outcomes or pose their own theories and attempt to convince people that they're onto something or reproving something. Since religious texts were written, how many people of "faith" were able to replicate anything from them that were unexplainable through any other means than hoaxing, intervention of a deity or "power" gained directly through religious belief? Science collects, examines and stores information and knowledge to the best of human abilities. Admittendly, not completely foolproof. However, faith does it completely backwards; it gives preposterous ideas and outcomes (termed loosely) without any logical step-by-step towards either, the lack of sufficient proof for any of it missing apparently since they were originally recorded. "Tell someone there's an invisible, almighty being in the sky and they'll believe it on faith. Tell the same people paint is wet and they'll have to touch it to believe it."