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[quote]Xbox Mini
The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions. Xbox 360 Games can be played on it by purchasing Games on Demand on Xbox Live (for new purchases) or if already purchased, simply download it. This also applies to music and movies. To further clarify, the Durango will also have these (TV) functions, just with next-genration gaming hardware instead of Xbox 360 at a higher price.
When used with Durango, it offers connectivity with it for backwards compatibility with both disc based and On Demand games, and it’s no more different than what Sony will be doing with Gaikai for playing PS3 games on PS4, only with Xbox it will be done locally and not through the cloud. You can control the Xbox Mini under a single interface and not have to worry about switching between devices in a single display input.
These connectivity functions cannot work with existing Xbox 360 units due to the difference in external interface. The Xbox Mini was designed for this along side Durango.[/quote]
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[quote]Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years. The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox. One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360. Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo. This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD. This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.
We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap. Our source unveils new details for Durango, Xbox mini and the Microsoft strategy; moreover we don’t forget Kinect 2.0.
Microsoft expands its Xbox brand
Getting to the point there are going to be two console as part of the redesigned “Xbox Line” of products. A repackaged and reoriented Xbox 360 unit and the new “Durango” gaming console, both designed to compete with more than Sony in gaming, but against Apple as well.
When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).
The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.
Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.
The price goal of the smaller Xbox is $149 or lower and it is likely to not have a disc drive and would require a network connection. Durango will be priced competitively according to PS4′s price.
Kinect 2.0
A different department within Xbox handles Kinect hardware and software. The focus was more on developing and networking both consoles with Kinect more of an after thought at that point, considering dealing with it would be less of an issue even with hardware changes to the main console hardware. Kinect isn’t the primary focus.
The development kits required several pieces of hardware as to combine all “potential” hardware which may or may not be required to work with each other, which also includes the potential for any or all devices to required a network connection, which is where most of the “required” rumors are coming from.[/quote]
The new xbox seems like it's gonna be pretty good, now we just need to see what games they have.
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lol at paying for online multiplayer
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It is online always... The Xbox One checks every 24 hours for an internet connection. If you don't have one then you can't even use it until you have one; you won't even be able to watch DVDs and Blu-Ray discs (the Xbox One has a Blu-Ray drive...) without an internet connection which sucks if you are in a very poor or rural area with extremely spotty internet connection or you are in a storm that's knocked out the internet.
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This is great news!
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An article from April? Alright...
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xbox one *
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How is this news? It should've been known already
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This is some good news!
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For those angry about the lack of native backwards compatibility on the new xbox: The hardware configuration for both of the next-gen systems has changed dramatically to make them more friendly to develop for. Since the games for both the 360 and the PS3 were developed and optimized around the specific hardware configurations of those systems, it makes sense that the new systems will not be able to play the old games. The way the console manufacturers have gotten around this in the past is to do one of two things: either 1) put the hardware for the old system inside the new system, or 2) use software emulation, which will not work with every game. Including a PS3 or 360 inside of the new systems in order to keep backwards compatibility would not be feasible for the manufacturers. Not only would this increase the cost to make the systems substantially, but it would also increase the size of the systems as well. Software emulation would basically mean that the system is creating virtual hardware. That is, it would literally simulate the way the old systems would behave. Many people are familiar with using emulators to play classic games on their computer, and have no doubt noticed that emulators for systems of the current generation, or even the generation before, are surprisingly taxing on the computer. This is because of the power needed to simulate the old hardware. The 360 uses software emulation, which is why a download is required to play original xbox games, and why not all of them will work correctly. Emulators, even the best ones, will not be able to play every game, and getting games to run on them often requires quite a bit of work on the developer's end. It appears that Microsoft has decided to go with hardware emulation, but externally in the form of the Xbox Mini. This system is literally the hardware of the 360, minus the disk drive. By hooking it to the new system, it is able to use the disk drive of the new system to run games on the hardware of the old system. Separate from the new system, it would still be able to use the Xbox LIVE marketplace, access Games on Demand, and Arcade titles. It seems like a good compromise. Those that have a library of 360 games will be able to either keep their 360 or grab the Mini for what seems like a decent price (considering the wifi adapter for the 360 was $100 by itself). Those that don't have a 360, but may want to get the older games in the future will be able to grab the Mini by itself, or grab a used 360. It doesn't seem any worse than Sony's approach of offering some games through digital download for purchase, which appears to be software emulation. I don't know if it has been made clear whether or not games that you already own will have to be repurchased to be playable on the PS4 or not.
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butt i ken alrdy play gaems offline
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The website is called "vgleaks" Enough said.
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Well, since Halo is dead as a series now (to me, at least) I still have no reason to buy an Xbox. The 360 left a bad, bad, BAD taste in my mouth with its ad-filled and costly online experience, Red Ring of Death, obscenely loud fan noise during routine operation, and lackluster exclusives. I've already moved to PC for the most part. Maybe I'll pick up a PS4 for Destiny, or a PS3 for cheap so I can finally enjoy some good games like InFamous, God of War 3, LittleBig Plannet, Resistance, Killzone 2 and 3 , and Journey. But outside of that see no reason to invest in a platform that's given me so much abuse.
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Good to know that the "always online" thing has been cleared up. Still, this is an odd move for MS.
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Yep. Microsoft can't figure out how to play its own games without a separate device. Nintendo figured that out.
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This is good, but I still don't plan to buy it.
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The irony of this thread is -blam!-ing ridiculous lol! Title is extremely misleading, even including the word "news" then you have "rumors" as a tag. l0l
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Edited by Sri-LanKING: 4/14/2013 5:19:21 PMSo, if I understand this correctly, the new xbox will not be backwards compatible? and in order for it to be I'd have to spend aprox $150 for an add on (the xbox mini)? why can't I just keep my original 360?
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Edited by Noshotskill: 4/11/2013 2:59:48 PMSo you are claiming a rumor is untrue, with the source being another article about a different rumor. We want official announcements, not rumors. Also, this rumor suggests Durango will not allow you to play 360 games on it unless its somehow connected to a 360? So its technically backwards compatible, but not?
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This is great news but in no offencive way im still not buying it. i think im going to change to PC now for great games like Arma, Mass effect and they up coming Destiny.
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Everybody who thought otherwise is truly an idiot. MS isn't that stupid.
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Shit, gotta love the AOF.
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Or I could just buy a PS4 and not have to buy a stupid item.
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Gotta love how IGN STILL didn't post this story
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Well that settles it for me... I'm giving up on console gaming. I don't want to have a bunch of consoles hanging out around my television. It's sad, I may have to give up on gaming all together. DRM killed the gaming industry. And I was hoping to get to play Destiny at some point in my life. I'm not going to play Destiny on a current gen, and I'm not going to invest in a next gen. Sucks to be me...
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This solution for backwards compatibility is better than Sony's IMO (assuming this is true).
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Why do you guys believ this stuff
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Looks like shit. I gotta buy this "mini" just to play games I already own on the Durango? Yeah, that's definitely not a cash grab... And this didn't tell me anything about the Durango, besides one rumor. And I want to know if they're still going to charge for xbox live for the Durango. I hate that bullshit.