[quote]"... your freedoms don't infringe those of others" So by this logic freedom-loving conservative nutjobs decide it's OK to kill in elf-defense because someone shooting at you with a gun is infringing your rights. But did you ever stop and think that by you killing them you just denied them their right to life? If him shooting at you denied his right to life then you shooting back at him denies your right to life. See, this is the sort of double standards at work as is the norm in conservative circles. "You can have your rights so long as i can abuse them in the name of my rights." [/quote]If someone is trying to kill you, their right to life is forefeit. There's no double standard at all. I find it quite disgusting that you're trying to demonise self-defense. [quote]this kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings like Sandy Hook. people are under the false impression that they can go around shooting people who aim a punch at them because it's 'self defense' and then some mental psychopath takes it way too far and shoots up a school because of the 'pain' people there caused him.[/quote]I see we've left reality and entered your fantasy world. [quote]conservatism is evil and anyone who believes in it should be ashamed of themselves.[/quote]LOL. So this was just a lead-up to a shitty troll thread.