[quote]There's a certain type of response that I'm expecting for this thread, and then there's a certain kind of response I'm looking for.[/quote] Let me guess ... would the response "[i]give up your job at starbucks and come show bungie how it is done[/i]" be the one that you are looking for? Perhaps [url=http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/SOMEGIRL10/pmsclanlogo.gif]your clans logo[/url] can provide some guidance on how women should be presented ... not like the middle example is [i]held up by gravity-defying pieces[/i] of magic cloth. Is it not a little rich to come here preaching to bungie when the example you promote do not adhere to the same rules? Plus there is a very simple answer ... dont like it, dont buy it.