[quote]12/23/2014 Edit:[b] [u]This thread was made before Destiny was released. [/u][/b]We didn't know how things were going to be yet![/quote]
There's a certain type of response that I'm expecting for this thread (immature and full of boob jokes), and then there's a certain kind of response I'm looking for (responsible conversation). I'm not telling either of you types of posters to leave. It's okay.
I would like to talk about breasts. Specifically, armored breasts. I don't want Destiny to go down a dark path of poor anatomy.
Allow me to say that the more unbalanced the ratio of female to male artists there are on a project, the higher the likelihood of us seeing game armor like [url=http://pds22.egloos.com/pmf/201101/18/68/e0072368_4d34afdf54228.jpg]this[/url]. It's annoying enough to have two melons on your chest, but when they're held up by gravity-defying pieces or metal, that's painful. Bras filled with cushioning and breathable material can still be painful. Imagine chicken wire holding up your moobs.
But that's an over-the-top fantasy MMO, not a space opera. So let's pick a space opera. [url=http://loschaos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Mass-Effect-Ash-and-Shepard.jpg]Why does the world of Mass Effect require lady lumps on armor?[/url] Why are those emphasized boob pieces necessary in a game that made some huge strides in female representation in games? Do sports bras not exist there? Can we top that off with the idea of a blunt object going towards someone's chest? [url=http://media.tumblr.com/74cddede528b5731359fcfec48885cbd/tumblr_inline_mgc3zjXIsW1rnp9q5.png]Lady lump armor will make things slide into the -blam!-ing sternum[/url]. You know, the bone right in front of a shit ton of vital organs.
So what's the solution for this problem?
1. Cut a hole in the box.
2. Make sure your artists/modelers are well versed in proper female anatomy.
3. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag4C0MFRnmE]Buy a sports bra[/url].
4. Take the awesome male armor you had before and put a woman in it. Don't get me wrong! People come in all shapes and sizes. Breastplates will sometimes need to be a bit bigger for some people and some people will need slimmer sets of power armor. Sometimes people wear form-fitting armor, but that still doesn't excuse outlining the breasts on the armor. [url=http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/yummie-tummie-joelle-shaping-tank/3218774?origin=related-3218774-0-0-1-1-Rich%20Relevence]Even casual form-fitting clothes do not work that way.[/url] What you get is the "uniboob."
[b]Wanting armor that caters to the female anatomy doesn't justify overcompensating for the female anatomy.[/b] Armored breasts do not need to be [url=http://www.wethegamerz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me3duo.jpg]lifted and separated when one encapsulated piece suffices in the first place[/url].
Done.
You think I'm kidding? I'm -blam!-ing serious.
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Cortana 5 has small boobs.
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Nah, I'm pretty sure the best armor for a female warrior is obviously two leather straps and a chastity belt. :)
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I agree that if woman are in a combat situation they shouldn't be wearing lingerie. Especially since i don't see pixels as "hot", so i could really care less if they are covered up.
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I'm more upset that in this day and age, women characters wear clothing at all. I blame the ESRB.
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Edited by Xenos: 2/17/2013 6:42:24 AMWell there is the concept picture of a female soldier. If it translates to what's in the final game it doesn't look too fan-servicey. Of course, she also doesn't look like she's wearing armor except maybe light leather armor.
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Why are you posting on here? Bungie has never given female characters revealing armor before, why would they now? Irrelevant post is irrelevant.
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Man, you know, it's just like what they say: It's a man's world.
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Edited by duck: 2/17/2013 5:39:05 AMI know being on the internet carries some negative stereotypes, but I don't think we need to stigmatize sexuality. I'm not saying armor should be exclusively sexual, but if someone wants to be unrealistically desirable, then so be it. I think what is more upsetting is the lack of male-equivalent sexual armor.
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What you got against fan service?
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Because one is aesthetically pleasing, the other is practical. You can't have both, and since movies/games are something for the eyes and a form of visual entertainment, the aesthetic part trumps practicallity.
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I just want some females naked in games. And actual sex.
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Edited by Joyeuse7: 2/17/2013 5:55:16 AMSo, you would like our female characters to look kind of like this?
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But...but...boobs!
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Doesn't faze me either way, though it certainly isn't necessary. The ratio of males and females who play video games isn't that huge of a gap any-more and it'd be nice to see developers recognise this and not plaster tits everywhere until someone buys their game. On the alternative view though, males are portrayed as beefed up, steroid injecting, heartless bastards and the armour generally reflects that. So I suppose both genders get exaggerated in video games somewhat.
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I agree 100%, i mean i like boobs and sexy girls, but girls in scantily clad armor on the battlefield, its just a huge turn off in more ways than one. Also the respect for the game drops. Especially in games that take place in the future... ESPECIALLY those games.
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I think it would be simply better if we didn't have armor and everyone went around sloppy-looking and naked.
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I kind of agree. Wonder though their view on it. Though do want to see different character design for females but not that huge of a distortion, that the girls become eye candy.
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Edited by Pfhortnite: 2/17/2013 4:10:17 AMI have to agree, but luckily Bungie doesn't have a history of doing stuff like this, save Cortana (not as bad as Halo 4's).
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Hey man, sometimes I need a little extra inspiration in battle. The more boobs the merrier.
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I find your lack of boobs disturbing.
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Edited by Gunny 186: 2/17/2013 4:30:57 AMi for one could never understand why female warriors in games are often fighting half naked. that defeats the purpose of protecting oneself in battle although female characters are supposed to be portrayed as being sexy, or are they
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Okay, so I'm still laughing over ghost boobs. But really... I think we're starting to see an end to unrealistic female armor in every single game ever. Yes, the number of current games with realistic female shapes is still very small, but it's growing, and some of the titles are coming out with some pretty hefty backing. Personally, I thought Kat in Reach was spectacular, a great example of a soldier, not a female in uniform. I have the same faith in Bungie using a wide range of models during their mocap sessions for Destiny, and I don't think they'll throw us over to Boris Vallejo style femme-armor any day soon. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy classic comic book art and sci-fantasy art in its own way, and I'll admit to having a good number of Vallejo and Olivia de Beradinis prints floating around. However, I really applaud the few forward thinking developers and publishers who are moving away from that trend, and towards something a bit more viable in real world physics.
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metalboobs lolol
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Edited by external: 2/17/2013 4:22:01 AMI'm just gonna say don't make crappy embarassing designs across the board, Bungie, as I think that covers it, but I know you got this. Well, at least when it comes to your meatspace wimmins, but that one lady's dead now anyway, so [i]good job[/i].
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It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Actually, it doesn't seem like any type of deal to me. Regardless, I wouldn't worry. Look at the Reach Spartans. You can't seperate the genders just by the chest.
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Ok, here's another thing for people who want to dig deeper on the subject. A friend on Facebook sent this to me. [quote] [b]Webmaster, Maybe you could pass this on to the development team. The main character in Oni (that woman) I think should have bigger breasts! I mean look what that has done for Tomb Raider, I know it caught my eye when I saw those. Just a suggestion but a good one I feel. You got to think who is buying these games. Teenage boys obsessed with Playboy models. BTW the site looks great. Thanks, Bryan Haggerty[/b] Bryan- We are not interested in perpetuating sexist stereotypes that create impossible expectations of women in the real world, who should be treated with the same reverence as any other human being regardless of their physical appearance. Rather than pandering to the misconceptions of adolescent males with no mature perspective, we should be trying to work for positive change. That's what I'm doing anyway. Peace to my sisters and peace to you[/quote]