[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK Drummer 11 After reading that jumbled lump of words, I can see you don't get it. Harebrained didn't need money, or support, to make a good game. All they needed was creative talent.[/quote]I wasnt questioning HBS's quality ... you did ([i]but given the 12 week development cycle - yeah[/i]). And you also said "[i]the game's quality really has nothing to do with Bungie[/i]" ... but given bungies self publicity and willingness to try and take credit - shouldnt they also share at least some of the blame. They cant have it both ways. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK Drummer 11 I'm also curious as to how you came to the conclusion that Bungie didn't support Crimson. They gave PR's about it...[/quote]Ok, this PR support. Can you provide a link ([i]or two, since you claim the plural[/i]) to some of this PR ... lets say anytime in the last 6 months ([i]surely [/i]'support'[i] would include a post per month[/i]). Since you like to call out "[i]evidence to the contrary[/i]" show us all a PR post within the last 6 months which is about Hairbrained Scheme's product (and not bungie self promotion). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK Drummer 11 ... and they probably tested the game and answered questions raised by the developer. They said that was a possibility on their Aerospace page, and you have no evidence to the contrary.[/quote]Well I guess [b]YOU[/b] have [i]evidence[/i] that they did test?? Again it was [b]YOU[/b] who created this thread - [b]YOU[/b] who tried to blame Hairbrained Schemes for [b]any & all[/b] lack of quality in the game. Surely if you make the claim you shold also be prepared to back it up?? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK Drummer 11 So you cannot say Bungie didn't try. If you didn't like the game, you only have Harebrained Schemes to blame ... Many projects are started with gusto and then quickly forgotten about as other burdens arrive, and reality hits once again. Like, for example, New Year's resolutions[/quote]Honestly ... so you are going to compare bungie promises "[i]to our fan community[/i]" (exhibit c above), its attempt to game press coverage, its lodging of trademarks and patents ... You compare this effort to a "[i]New Year's resolutions[/i]"?? And before you come here and attempt to blame HBS for everything you should research how Weisman did this as a favor for Parsons based on a long history ... now would [b]YOU[/b] do this to a friend, let them ([i]and their smaller company[/i]) take the fall for your projects failure? Kinda obvious that that Weisman was not impressed - went elsewhere for later game(s) funding and publishing ... not an endorsement for bungie. And if [i]bungie are so great and blameless[/i] how come, in over 12 months, they couldn't attract a single other title?