Isn't every meta depressing?

[quote]We all know some PVE players sometimes jump in the PVP modes from time to time to go in looking for a bit of “Fun”. “It can’t be that bad, Right?…” This meta we currently have isn’t fun at all but actually depressing. Every match there are people just laning with pulse rifles and not moving. This has exacerbated the close range game to become a special only zone. These in conjunction have made PVP the slowest and most boring meta possible. Let’s reduce the effectiveness of using a pulse rifle in PVP. Don’t change the TTK but make them harder to use. This was done to snipers for being to effective in the long range and pulse rifles are in need of the same change. Let’s also give some more changes to the lower used frames and exotics. The recent changes to the 120 hand cannon’s in PVP has seen some of the players trying them out once again.[/quote] Been an advocate of significantly reduced flinch when outside of optimal range. And I mean significantly. To the point ur redical barely moves. If ur sitting in the back with a pulse and ur .5 meters outside of ur optimal range, then any sniper/scout should have an easy shot on u. Also every single weapon should have harsh damage fall off. It's all or none. No more of this hand cannons, smgs and side arms lose 40% of their damage 3 meters out side of optimal range while a 40 meter pulse with a .67 ttk still kills in 3 bursts 45 meters away. Also i believe ttk should directly reflect range. Slow ttk= more range. Faster ttk=less range. Funny enough i think adaptive pulses and rapid fires do a good job of that. Adaptives are slow but have decent ranges, and rapids are fast but usually cap out around 34 meters. Tho there drop off scaler is still way to forgiving. For both.

Lol. No.

As long as hand cannons are also good pulse rifles being strong shouldn't be an issue. Its better them than autos or scouts in terms of what people can probably stand (and also use) for longer periods of time. Tbh, the post does somewhat come across as "140s still not strong enough" but some of us don't really have a problem with 140s being buffed its just that when they're not overly strong people tend to forget about the sheer number of complaints that people tend to make when they see them everywhere. Also pulse complaints from a certain level of player probably means pulses are in a pretty good spot. 140s could be the hands down best weapons in the game and a certain level of player will complain about pulses.

Pulses only push away people that couldn’t compete with the exact same weapons or with other 340s. I use a 390 and I go flawless fine even against Graviton and elsie users. If everyone is mostly using the same weapons it’s longer just weapon it’s the player. And for the players that don’t use 340 pulses or even 120 hand cannons you just got to be better because you’re playing at a disadvantage of not choosing the meta.

what planet are you on? Seriously the apes just die to charging in the open and end up on the forums. I've yet to see a pulse i couldn't out-duel, and that's with the broken bygones that are gone now. SMGs run pulses into the ground, ARs flinch them into missing tons of shots, hand cannons still 3 tap with 120s doing even better with the buffs, grab a sidearm with a controller to hit crossmap with perfect accuracy. all pvp needs is less ability spam and more gun play.

Yeah pvp is absolutely horrible. I came back to the game almost a year ago maybe? And I thought it was bad when I quit but it's way worse now.

Nah prismatic hunter drove me aways that whole subclass feels like actual garbage to play against. It's too oppressive and can lockdown half of a map.

Let’s make hand cannons the weapon you can use in pvp

I agree about the Pulse rifles. They should not be able to 2 burst. But there are other problems too. First the body to crit multiplier has made everyone team shot which is boring. But if you do find yourself in a 1v1 and you are trying to use a primary because the average time to kill has increased secondaries are over powered in particular fusions and shotguns which seem to have more range than they used to. Personally I think the whole sandbox needs resetting to what it was before the final shape.