I play FFXIV more for this reason I can grind out armor that's best in slot for each job when my main job has best in slot already. I can buy the items I need because there is a token system in that game. If I do a fight once per week, I can get a book or token and then I can trade that for gear I need if I roll on loot and get unlucky. Also the content is something you have to actually learn and get used to. There is nothing like that for me in destiny. Once I know a mechanic, I can do it fine. There is no in between. There is no variation to most mechanics when it comes to doing something different. The gameplay is stale and there is no amount of ways to aquire gear (that may or may not be bad) that could possibly entice me to say I'm truly enjoying my time. We are doing the same things for years. There is no variety in PvE content. The main selling point is loot and I already have the best loot that can take me through any and all content. So I spend my time elsewhere. Loot is an excuse to not add actual content to the game. It's used as a replacement for content. The chase IS the game. And the chase is stale when you do the same things over and over. Like going for Pinnacle. I do play from here and there. I do find the game fun. I just rather play FFXIV. So the main difference between the two games and their progression system is that I get a weekly capped currency, I buy the armor I need directly. There is only ONE of the item. So imagine I can buy a chest piece in Destiny from stocking up on strange coins and that chest piece is the ONLY one that can be 2010. No infusion. Static stats. Equip armor. Arms from same vendor is 2010 BUT bad stats. Then I do the raid and it has arms that are 2010. BETTER STATS. I get that arms. This constant INCHING to pinnacle is bad. It's used to also keep players coming back as you said.