[quote]I am a PvP novice and working towards getting better. It's hard to get better when you are being slaughtered by all the sweaty boys. It is no wonder the PvP community in D2 is shrinking, beside the cheaters (that includes the the Xim and Cronus gimps) along with the typical PC hackers. I play console and play mostly with console players, with the exception of the PC players grouping (sneaking in) with a console player. I tried to run some trials, but was berated for being "garbage", common Bungie, get the lobbies better so a noob has a chance!! Any "good" advice for a guy just starting out? (Trolls on ignore)[/quote] I've been a pvp main since day one. Recently quite. My recommendation is don't bother with pvp. It's honestly not worth it. Every season bungie will make a bunch of promises, the patch notes will say some garbage about how certain weapons are being nerfed/buffed. And u will think "finally pvp will be good". I hate to break it to you, but pvp will never be good. Literally pick any other game with pvp and it will be better than this. Pick a game with only 2k players and it's match making will still be better than destiny's 392k. I wish someone told me before I first started playing "hey man don't pick up this game, it ain't worth it" it would have saved me years. That's my advice to you. Leave now before ur drawn to far in and continously come back thinking "maybe this time will be different". Just run man, RUN!!