This reeks of loneliness 💀

People come to the internet to be heard, not to listen. What used to be the job of a journal to be filled with negative thoughts people inflict them on anyone on the internet with anonymity as their shield. It's not a thing we evolved to handle gracefully, and the truly narcissistic among us abuse it. Unfortunately logic is only logic and common sense to most ppl when applied to anyone but themselves.

That's why you should avoid the Destiny 2 forums. If you wish to discuss Destiny 2 in a civil manner, I recommend doing so in better moderated places, such as Discord and (maybe) /r/DestinyTheGame.

I don't agree.

Social media is garbage, what else is new?

OP: the net is full of ‘keyboard warriors’…don’t engage, you’ll only be bashing your noggin against a brick wall of pure nonsense, usually founded on ignorance. 🤔 Also, don’t get discouraged from sharing feedback, there’s loads of epic, reasonable Guardians about the place… 😎 Finally, use the ‘block’ function, as required! 👈 Chin up! 😉 Ease Springs! 🖖

Okay, so to provide a 'not-so-acerbic' response, I can say this; people come to forums to be heard. They want to be listened to and they want to be acknowledged. They don't necessarily [u]need[/u] to be agreed with, but it always feels nice when they are. The problem comes from the shape that acknowledgement takes. If it's in the form of 'well, I don't agree with you and here's why' or 'sorry, but I think you're wrong and here's my take on it', you generally get a conversation going. If the response is mocking, derogatory or otherwise aggressive, then that's the form it takes from there on. In general, people ALWAYS respond in kind. If they attack you, personally, it's usually because you attacked them, personally. And if the conversation started that way it's usually due to frustration stemming from issues that have been left unaddressed. The reason that it's largely that way on here is simple; Bungie. They've left these forums to be largely unregulated and when they are monitored and managed, it's usually with extreme, heavy-handed bias. They don't engage with their players in the way that other developers do, and so the voices on here generally get louder and angrier and the lack of response leads to tribalism and the kind of 'them versus us' mentality that makes most 'debate' on here devolve into one-on-one slanging matches. With these forums, Bungie have effectively left the pond to rot and fester and therefore shouldn't expect the clear, flowing waters of the Fountain of Youth to spring forth from it. There are plenty of arguments that they won't come on here because 'it's too toxic', but how did it get that toxic in the first place? Simple - You reap what you sow. You've used the comparison of a support group, but what are support groups if not the exchange of feelings and experiences between people who feel that outside of that group, nobody will understand or sympathise with how they think or feel? Is it really surprising that Bungie's lack of involvement in their community leads to that? The idea behind a forum might be one of discourse, and in a lot of cases that's actually what they are, but not on here. If you've come here for that, you really are in the wrong place.

I'm going to disagree just because we need someone to be that hero. The one that speaks up against disagreement by... Erm... Disagreeing...

I agree…

[quote]What is wrong with people?[/quote] Would you like this in list or essay format? Seriously, I don't even know where to begin....

Don't really know the context behind your post but considering most of the time when I open the forums the first threads I see are complaint posts with many replies just arguing, its just kind of indicative of an unhealthy forum, community and game. Pretty much at this point the community basically feels ignored by Bungie and so you'll see hardly any constructive feedback or anything other than the typical posts after someone just lost a bunch of crucible matches and is screeching into the void.

I look at it like this, it is what it is and frankly it helps people on both sides of the aisle to agree to disagree it is the nature of the beast after all.

We have a community that has gotten overly toxic because the decisions bungie made during early d2 caused a wave of serious negativity, which then became reinforced as people realized that they would get attention for spreading negativity. It had already existed before that point, but it was generally kept in check by people of good will and good faith. Past that point, nobody was really trying to police that anymore and keep the toxicity at or under acceptable levels. So now everybody just argues with eachother as if the opposition had killed their mother in front of them. People die on hills that aren't deserved and act like they are staking their lives on it, which they just aren't. It's a feedback forum for a video game. We could all stand to be just a little bit more tolerant of eachother, and a bit less dramatic with the whole "gaming is dying" rhetoric. Gaming is fine, destiny is fine (though I always think there's room for it to improve), and if people stopped being so over-dramatically hateful about everything, then they would be fine too.

I’m just diabolical like that

It's funny

It's because a lot of people lack emotional maturity to even talk about a game and the simple fact that people don't agree is seen as toxic and stops us from actually discussing the game that we like playing. It's people who think in 1 dimension thinking that everyone only thinks in 1 dimension and demonize people who disagree with them rather than having a genuine conversation about the game. There will always be radical people. Whether they're elitist or toxic casuals. It doesn't matter because this place is built on emotional opinions rather than discussing a topic in good faith. This concept isn't new either. This is in newer games. This is in journalism. This is on Twitter most of all. And here. Because plugging your ears and demonizing the "other side" stops communication which leads ignorance and useless fighting that will get up nowhere. These people who aren't emotionally mature enough to have these discussions (people calling others elitists and no life's and casuals and trash at the game, BDF). When it's just a video game that should be fun. Its Bungie's fault for making a game that doesn't have a major focus on the flow of the game. Bungie makes the decisions so it doesn't make sense to be at each other's throats here because it doesn't do anything. Then you have trolls. They provide no meaning to themselves or anybody here. But that's another story. A story involving therapy and other means to become a normal human being. Hope they find the help they need and all that. Tldr: people aren't emotionally mature enough to talk about opposing ideas and critically think about why they have certain opinions and why another person has opposing opinions. But there's also people who don't consider other human beings ideas because they think they're the only one that matters. There needs to be a level of respect for fellow players and humans beings. But not too much to the point you say that the ends justify the means Edit: Also the people that can't handle an opposing opinion, I know you're not gonna believe me, but I genuinely hope you understand you need therapy if you can't. Like I hope you get the help you need. If you're an adult, talk to your doctor.