If they are going to kill in .7 secs make them special ammo have more lethality than 2 body shots with a rapid fire sniper. Everyone has the “GOD ROLL” so nerf them then we will see where the crucible stands. We have all these weapons in our vaults we wont even use in high end pvp content. We need a better meta.
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So what you are actually saying is buff hand cannons, because I don't want other weapons to be as lethal as hand cannons?
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I think the guns are fine, but, if anything, Bungie could nerf the outliers in the archetype, like Messenger and Elsie's (nerf their base stats)
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Buff SMGs and Autos to counter at mid range then We don't need any nerfs, nerfs are for entitled snowflakes that expect the world to revolve around them
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So use what you want, the I can't play with my guns doesn't exist, use what you want to use.
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Edited by TwigTwig: 9/26/2024 6:35:49 PMUntil Bungie stop pigeonholing every gun into 'archetypes', the meta will always be like this, or they'll nerf 340s and everyone will move onto the next archetype. We need unique weapons with unique stats, fire rates etc. Not just 'oh, another 340 pulse rifle,' or 'another 140 HC.' We know what the meta is and always will be because every gun is predicatable. I don't know any other game that's managed to make weapons as boring as Bungie has somehow managed.
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So are hand cannons.
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Edited by iOawe: 9/26/2024 4:07:30 PMNo a nerf would ruin them in PVE. Right now they are perfect.
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And handcannons are being used across whole maps.... fix those first! It's been years of hand cannon crap yet babies don't like a month or 2 of pulse rifles doing well lol
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HITACHI-NR83A
MY Will AND THESE TWO FISTS!!!! - old
All you kids want is a handcannon meta. No. You only have a 1.4 kd. You should maybe start learning how to get good before making outrageous claims. -
We need more abilities in pvp
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A simple and easy fix would be increasing the zoom of these type of pulse riffles. High zoom at close to midrange are terrible
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I agree with you that the meta can be too restricting at time. And it does leave a lot of other weapons sitting in the vault collecting dust. However it’s also refreshing that there are at least shifts in the meta once in a while, right? I personally suck with handcannons, so pulse rifles are more fun for me. And I wouldn’t wanna go back to another smg meta for a while, after the whole Immortal thing.
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They definitely do need some sort of adjustment.
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If you have one in your vault.. Why are you not using it?
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EarthlyJaguar0
Hit me up if you want to play pms w/ me - old
Yeah Elsie’s can easily be used in mid range.