[quote]It's time to see where destiny 2 stands for me as of lately. First things first. Huge fan of the game and bungie. Very creative. But I kid you not alot things and the game caters to streamers and expansion owners. Where do non expansion owners or d1/d2 veterans stand? People who can't get their hands on expansion for example? I kid you not, for me I can't play anything without PS or dlc. It's a paywall and you telling me? Telling me you enjoy that? People enjoy that? Our gaurdians don't. I got on today expecting iron banner to be free and it's online requirements or ps allowed. You know where d2 stand for me then? Dungeons were free. Had match making. Raids were free and had match making. And it'll rotate that. Base game was raids, Dungeons, gambit, crucible and strikes. Etc. Now you get on. Everything is playstation plus required. This dlc required. I won't say it's dead it's true. The game itself, it'll tell you, it's dry. It's dead. Go back. Stop here. I kid you not, there was more to do then then now. So let me ask you something. Where do think I stand when I can't play iron banner? When I found out it's PS required?[the eyes can lie][/the nose cannot][/quote] Anything with matchmaking or ability to play with others has always required ps plus. Dungeons and raids have never had matchmaking. Iron banner is multiplayer activity. It's always required ps plus. It sounds like you don't play this game because everything you say is incorrect