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6/30/2024 10:31:47 PM
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Actually it probably would have still happened as if Zavala got over hakim’s death the season of the haunted would have brought stronger emotions as the the nightmare of his own wife he couldn’t save mocks him over his traveler not bringing back his son
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[quote]Actually it probably would have still happened as if Zavala got over hakim’s death the season of the haunted would have brought stronger emotions as the the nightmare of his own wife he couldn’t save mocks him over his traveler not bringing back his son[/quote] If he's still losing his mind at stuff like that, it means he didn't properly process anything. That's what properly process means, it means he's over it. That's a natural part of grief, to eventually get passed it and continue with your life. It's exceptionally unbelievable that this man grieved his dead son continuously for hundreds of years and the entire story of D2 is just him progressively losing it over and over again because of it. How the hell did a guy like that end up as leader of the vanguard? It's a terrible story for a character who could've had a lot better
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Felspring
I just want conditional man - old
Frankly I think he did process it but it was then used against him like a weapon but that’s just my thoughts. -
Edited by AbsolutZeroGI: 7/1/2024 3:42:24 AM[quote]Frankly I think he did process it but it was then used against him like a weapon but that’s just my thoughts.[/quote] If a person has processed it, it can't be used against them as a weapon. As an example. My mom died a while back. I've processed this. Someone bringing it up doesn't bother me. Because I've processed it. In fact, you started this conversation by saying "I swear people in this community have never lost anything" (paraphrased, of course). Walked right by it. Didn't bother me. Processing one's emotions. Powerful stuff. Zavala experienced no character growth in this area. All any being needs to do is bring up and it reduces Zavala to an ineffective blob of sadness. That's the opposite of "processing" a trauma.
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Felspring
I just want conditional man - old
My final thing, no offense is intended, but what if your mother’s ghostly copy came back and said you were the reason she died. Wouldn’t you get upset at least a bit? And it wouldn’t stop always nagging at you. -
[quote]My final thing, no offense is intended, but what if your mother’s ghostly copy came back and said you were the reason she died. Wouldn’t you get upset at least a bit? And it wouldn’t stop always nagging at you.[/quote] The first time? Yes, until I was told that a bad guy was doing it to manipulate my emotions (which Zavala was specially told by Eris Morn), and then, while probably a little unnerving, it wouldn't anymore because I have an IQ slightly higher than a citrus fruit and understand that [b][i]it's not real[/i][/b]. The second time? No, because it's literally the same trick used again years later and I'm now experienced enough to know that my enemies can play those types of mind games. However, for the sake of argument, my mom died from cancer, her 4th in 10 years, and she had decided to not get treatment and just let it slide. A 3-1 all time record vs cancer ain't bad. Clearly, she can't blame me for that and it wouldn't make sense for her to. Now, if I had taken her out to a remote place where she was killed by bandits, then maybe the first attempt might hit me harder since there is a little evidence that I was at least partially responsible for it happening. EVEN SO, once I was informed that it was a bad guy conjuring up a fake ghost of my mother specifically to manipulate me, the trick would cease to work, however realistic it was and however much it was based on my brain. It's a suspension of disbelief that Zavala lets it affect him as much as it does, as there is a clear and concise explanation for why it's there and also that it's not real. The fact that he falls for it friggin TWICE is insane.
