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Edited by SenXXII: 6/27/2024 3:02:15 PM
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"I don't want to see anymore trans or gay characters." Well too bad. They exist in all forms of media just as much as straight relationships do. They should be considered part of the norm. If this was a straight couple, I guarantee that no one would bat an eye. Just like people on the LGBT wouldn't bat an eye because it ain't that deep. The point here is to let people exist without ridicule. Having characters that are not straight and trans is not pushing an agenda. It should be considered as a basic relationship between characters. Having something exist in media does not automatically make it pushing an agenda. And even then, is the agenda bad? In other forms of media where it is more obvious that there's an agenda being pushed, as long as we're not talking bad about straight couples, what is the harm of having those characters exist in the first place? Answer. There is none. You are the one that's antagonizing. You are the problem. You will never escape the LGBT and trans people because they exist IRL. There's a reason that the person who complained about the LGBT flag in helldivers got blocked and banned.
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  • Except they also portray it I'm such high quantity. Like, half the characters in all content now seem to be either gay, trans, non binary, whatever. They are about 1% of the entire human population and even smaller of a percentage in a combat setting. Yet they are becoming more and more common in movies and games. Yes, it's to push the agenda. Numerous companies have ope ly stated this. And yes, they get bonuses and higher funding if they add these characters and stories. This is a known fact. Same as how some governments will give breaks and bonuses to businesses for diversity hiring. The problem isn't that it happens. It's that it has become the Centerpoint for plots lately. Have them being gay in the background, I don't care, but don't have their relationship being the core to the story. Zavalas story with Safi made sense because he was dealing with the trauma of her death. That's a core story. But sitting in the helm and listening to these 2 characters talk about how much they love eachother and how they dream about exploring the stars as a couple in love is just so off topic to the story at hand. We don't care. That's the kind of conversation that should be had in private. I don't need to hear their romantic talk to each other. Same as I don't want to hear any straight couple talking to each other like that. It's annoying and pointless for the games progression.

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  • Ok. See how you actually talked about the relationship? That's ok. I actually agree that they shouldn't be constantly going back to it. Great they're in love. We get it. Shouldn't be part of the main story over and over and over and over. I ACTUALLY agree. It's not about an AGENDA. It's about a repetitive point in the story that has nothing to with anything. Even if this was from a straight couple stand point, I would say the same thing and not care. And don't let anyone say "oh you don't care about this relationship? Well that means you hate these types of couple". Nah that's like saying I like waffles so I must hate pancakes. Nah brother. That's a whole different sentence.

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  • Exactly. Everyone is so fast to group us into "you don't like this so you must hate everything like it". No. I just don't like THAT. I do believe it's part of an agenda driven movement. Bungie is very aggressive with this direction, and they definitely want it forced on us. You should see some of the higher level interviews and financial backer talk. There was a comment made about how they hope it makes us "hateful people" want to stop playing the game because they don't want us supporting their game by playing it. I forget what the guys name was but he was pretty high up in the background of things for a few game companies. And he was talking specifically about destiny 2 for this comment. So it's definitely an agenda. But the main issue is that it's out of place. Let me shoot stuff and get my loot. Give me a story that inspires me to be a hero. I don't need the sappy romance crap.

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