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6/18/2024 3:38:59 AM
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Did Crow inadvertently change our fate and save us from the fate foretold by the corridors of time?

I believe that our guardian was meant to die while fighting the final battle against the witness. This seems evident by the fact that ergo sum or the sword of the traveler, was present on our grave in the corridor of time. Now consider the vex cannot predict paracausality, meaning they wouldn't have known that Crow would wish Cayde back to life with an Ahemkara wish. I purpose that by bringing Cayde back, Crow accidentally changed the outcome as well as the events of the final shape. The most noticeable change would have been the loss of our ghost since cayde brought it back. It's also entirely possible that without cayde, the vanguard would have fallen to the witness, thereby not being able to cover our escape once we wounded him. Just my thoughts.
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  • Nah. One of Saints voice lines for the funeral is “ Come back to us and we will kill whatever killed you”. I don’t think it was ever the witness. If it was, he would have called his name. Most likely the Witnesses very presence was keeping something at bay an will try to take his place.

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    • i absolutely love this theory

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    • I like this

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    • Edited by Darthy: 6/21/2024 4:30:26 PM
      We already know paracausality is capable of reshaping the universe so it plausible that crow shifted fate. But did he alter our fate or delay it can fate ever truly be changed or just delayed. Oh yes and the vex can simulate paracausality to a degree not perfectly but the more they face it the more data they gain and can refine the algorithm. The vex are truly the perfect foe the more we fight them the more they learn. Attrition wars can't beat the vex as a whole.

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      • Uncharted territories. I, personally, would love Seasonal content that focuses on alternate timelines like Ana Bray being the biggest threat in the galaxy, or if Xivû Arath allied with Red Legion to destroy all humanity, or if the Hive royalty were instead the Vanguard leaders, or if Cayde-7 was the Dark Guardian that served Calus? What possibilities can arise are endless…

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      • I think Crow inadvertently changed our Fate in Excision. Ergo Sum is only available after the final mission of the campaign. If I remember correctly, I believe the Ergo Sum is a sword given to us by the Traveler. A weapon made for the Travelers Chosen. Thus why it’s on our grave. I think our Guardian did die, and we were transported into the final resting place of all guardians and ghost. The same place that Cayde was pulled from, but in our final battle, we didn’t just kill our ghost. We destroyed its very essence. There is no escape of light when our Ghost dies, which is common when we see Ghosts get destroyed, like the explosion from Sundance. There was no light in our ghost to return to the traveler, and thus, we ask the Traveler to restore our ghost, not understanding that we ourselves died. It’s not until Cayde revives our Ghost, returning to the light himself, that we are also resurrected.

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      • I see what you mean but there is a slight problem, if they couldn’t predict that wish, then how were they able to see us win? Because getting in there to win was also predicated on a wish. The Corridors wasn’t just Vex tech. It was also wish magic and a ton of paracausal power. So it was leagues beyond the Vex’s normal capabilities, that’s how we actually altered time. Which means what we saw in there, no one else has. I would follow the logic of the Dark Future lorebook, whatever that scene was only based on a possible future where Crow didn’t make the wish. Just like we would have lost had any one person made a different choice along the way. It was never a future set in stone, there never has been. We make our own Destiny.

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      • It could also be that the guardian is just set to die at another time, and at that time the grave will be made.

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      • Sounds plausible

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