Why would you take master of arms or frenzy over desperate measure is the real question but yea master of arms is complete trash.
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Because frenzy is one of the best perks in the history of Destiny?
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I know this but desperate measures is better
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Desperate measures is certainly good but frenzy is just better
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Edited by JD: 4/19/2024 9:27:57 PMHighly disagree for bosses yea for ad clear absolutely not. 30% buff vs 15%
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But you won’t always have that 30% buff. Frenzy is a respectable damage buff that is basically permanent and it caps handling and reload.
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Edited by JD: 4/19/2024 9:37:15 PMNot hard at all to keep buff up. You take your 15% I’ll roll with 30%. Plus the handling and reload from frenzy isn’t really needed on recluse. Desperate measures x3 is the closest you’re getting to OG recluse.
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Frenzy is far more than a damage buff. Desperate measures is only a damage buff
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Idk recluse feels not to great with just frenzy imo. No different from funnelweb.
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Neither feels great. Lightweights are just meh
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Yea SMG’s need a buff
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Frenzy is 0 thought required. Desperate measures you're gonna want to be looking at your buffs to see if it proc'd, think about your grenade or melee availability... frenzy you just play lol
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Edited by JD: 4/19/2024 9:28:33 PMTrue except desperate measures is 30% buff at x3 one good grenade throw and you’re rolling. Plus even if you have no ability you’re still getting x1 just from weapon kills.
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 4/19/2024 9:30:37 PMYeah but that x1 requires a kill and more importantly focusing on maintaining it, frenzy's 15% just requires you to either take damage or deal damage. Super easy to do to the point where you really don't even need to think about it. It all depends if you really want that 30% buff or if you value just having the best ease of use damage buff (frenzy)
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Yea but you’re constantly to getting kills. Frenzy better for bosses yea. Get that DM x3 and it feels like old recluse.
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Trust me man I know how good desperate measures is, It's the only recluse I have kept. I'm just explaining why you might want to use frenzy instead. Some people like perks that don't require much effort to proc. The main power of desperate measures is in it's grenade/melee proc and if you lose that buff and you don't have a melee or grenade, it's GGs. Whereas frenzy, you just play lol
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Honestly they should revert the nerf. It's a unique perk to the weapon, just mkae it viable. A lot of weapons/perks need buffs in my opinion.