[quote] I'll tell you something else about your limited intellect. In Trials you ARE facing PC as well as other consoles. That's the entire point of Trials being mandatory cross play.[/quote] I absolutely love the people who are so confidently wrong.

Seriously ahahahah what a bot

You barely play the game. People that have your mind set are a blight to this games community. Please stop being such a miserable person. You are also just wrong… I don’t get lag most games, i have no problems versing people who use third party devices on console, most of them are beatable. I’d rather not play them but i would rather play them than PC hackers. There are a lot less third party device users than the 0.6kds think there are, if you are that bad, everyone looks like a cheater. I always have 80+ ping. The fact that you think that a solo/team on console can match PC players in PvP/Trials goes to show how out of touch you are with the game. You are so lost in the sauce that your opinion isn’t even something that people care to listen to. You can only match other console players Xbox/PS when playing with only console players. You mention my “minutes intellect”, but then follow it up with something that isn’t, and wasn’t ever true. Edit: You’ve never played trials before, why on Earth do you think you have the insight to talk on a matter like this. I wouldn’t talk about being a -blam!-, that’s your area of specialty. You are the epitome of someone stupid, who doesn’t realize how stupid they are. You talk like you are some sort of intellectual, you aren’t.

Nah you're wrong here fam. Microsoft upgraded their network 2 years ago, meaning games needed new netcode to run smoothly. All games coded before the upgrade will see desync issues between PlayStation & Xbox. Most, if not all games, rewrote their code, halo even went to ping based mm until they did it, & cod left it but released a new game with new code a few months later, so older cods are still a mess, but bungie ignored it & it plagues the game. In America the console population is pretty much 50/50 so it'-blam!- & miss on lobbies, but in Europe it's 90/10 in favour of psn over Xbox meaning pretty much every lobby or instance has minimum 9 psn, often more, making crucible & gambit almost unbearable, it even causes crazy long tower loading if it's a psn heavy tower, which again is 50/50 given pc is the biggest population in Europe & pc heavy towers are fine.

I’m not trying to argue the population percentages of the different regions. As a playstation player most of my games are majority xbox, and my games are barely laggy, which is what I said, i never said there wasn’t lag for everyone… When i say barely laggy, i mean bearable, there is still always a small amount of lag. It takes forever to load into the tower because it tries to wait and load a bunch of people in at once, and it has to wait for old gen consoles which can take minutes. That guys is toxic to everyone who he replies to which is why I snapped at him. Nevertheless, this was only a small part of my reply, so i’m not sure why it was what you wanted to reply about. He’s still wrong about most of the things he replied about. I will say that it’s nice to have some reply and actually know what they are talking about.

You in America btw? I'm guessing so from your name :) A good rule of thumb in the forums, if you see someone who doesn't see lag they're likely in America, people who see lag are generally in Europe. Neither person is wrong. I've asked a lot of people over the years lol America is a huge solid landmass with by far the biggest population in destiny so even connecting to people cross country it's a decent connection, in Europe there's 2-3 oceans between countries & a tiny player base meaning lobbies very often include the middle east & Asia. I've seen videos & watched streams & it really is like a different game over here.

I’m in Canada, but I get what you mean.

You should go back and read how you started that reply, and then how you finished it. You are the very thing you are claiming the poster you are replying to is. You start off lecturing the poster about not being a miserable person .. and you end it by insulting them and calling them stupid. I don't play Trials. Because it's full of people like you, arrogant know it alls who treat other people like dirt. You say you message people to call them pathetic. I say they are showing good judgement by getting out of your lobby. Seriously, get a grip.

The guy I replied to is a serial toxic person in the bungie forums. He does not deserve a respectful reply, especially not when he came at me like he did. You know who else doesn’t deserve respect, people that leave in trials games because they lost a round. It’s selfish and ruins the experience for their teammates. If you load into endgame PvP and don’t want to partake in it, you shouldn’t be allowed to. Imagine if a sports player backed out of a game because his team got scored on, that’s not fair to his team, and he should be punished. I treat people who deserve the respect with respect.

It's not endgame anymore TBF, it's never been more accessible, it's just a worn out fatigued playerbase of unwelcoming veterans. Bungie don't help this & the anger should be targeted at them. Why are bungie funnelling poor players into trials with the carrot of an adept gun? It's to boost the player numbers BUT they're pushing players in their -blam!- don't want to be there, who know they're not good enough to be there, who probably lose most games so when they go 0-3 ah well seen it all before I'll try again. A lot are also just after being carried by a great player, if they go behind they think they arent with a geat player so they requeue. Trials as a game mode is kinda finished & I really don't know why people still play. Streamers play to earn money, cheaters play to pi55 people off, & do recoveries, & the casuals left about 9 years ago, there's no growth, no one's coming back, & it's actually laughable are people get excited for even more returning loot, like the trials loot is absolute cheeks & none of its ever new