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Edited by Chubby Belly:
10/26/2023 3:24:26 PM
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How did humanity survive the first collapse knowing what we know now?
From the very first moments of Destiny 1, we're told that the darkness had found us at one point, enclosed on the Traveler and almost took out humanity as a whole during what was known as the Collapse. But the Traveler pushed back and forced the darkness away. We know these references are most likely to the black fleet at the point, but I'm just a little bit confused because of what we know now about the black fleet. Massive and over-powering. How were the ships pushed away from us so far? How did the Witness essentially go dormant for centuries when they knew where the Traveler was all this time? I'm just curious about these things, because simply knowing the power of the Witness, the disciples, these ships, the darkness, I'm baffled as to how humanity survived the fleet the first time and then somehow veiled ourselves from them for all this time.
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11 RepliesConfusion is the right response to it. The Witness lost the Veil yet for some reason decided to spare humanity? The Disciples showed mercy? The Hive didn’t use their Logic? Yea, it doesn’t make sense because it’s wholly counter to their natures. When people say it’s because of Savathun, that also makes no sense. Who but one of his own could of taken down Nez and stole it from him? Therefore the culprit was one of his own and yet…didn’t bother asking? So yeah, it makes [i]zero sense[/i] for humanity not to have been wiped out. That’s why they’ve never touched it. They couldn’t explain it. The real reason involves the original storyline. The OG storyline had the Gardner as the source of paracausal power. Kill the Gardner and it all goes away. Remember, the whole franchise was meant to end, not this never ending cash grab crap. When it was wounded and was falling into a coma, it put out an shield of sorts that kept the Dark side enemies away. That explains why the Hive and Vex didn’t steam roll us post Collapse. Something that also doesn’t make sense when you think about it. That’s why in the base D1 grimoire card series, The Dreams of Alpha Lupi, the Gardner talks about the Shell being a cage, it’s memory being tampered with and a feeling it was being herded through the cosmos. There’s no more details than that really. Most of this comes from the leaked contract between Bungie and Act way back in the early years. Oh yeah, the Vex origin was retconned as well. They were originally meant to be the converted remains of fallen civilizations. So likely that was supposed to be our fate had the Gardner not made the Guardians and that shield. But all of this was changed prior to release. They decided to change the story months before release and cut up the base game to stitch together the campaign. And that’s why after ten years, Bungie has only finished one storyline. The Cabal. They were supposed to tell the whole thing in ten years. Everything. Instead they’ve spent all this time retconning one iteration of the story after another. I think we are on the sixth one now. OG, base D1, TTK, base D2, Forsaken, SK-present. They should be embarrassed but they only care about making money.
