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[quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao Edit: looking into the account things get weirder when for many seasons in his stat tab it says 0 yet he had almost rank 100 in almost every season. Another thing to add is Bungie uses battle eye, no “red flags” are triggered and you get banned. When battle eye detects a illegal program it hits you with a ban. What is a manual review gonna do? All its gonna do is show what battle eye flagged you for, how are you gonna prove you didn’t cheat? There is no definitive way to do it and yet you skim that part, there is so many red flags with this account and post
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  • [quote]Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] https://www.pcgamer.com/bungie-is-giving-destiny-2-players-dollar45-of-in-game-currency-to-say-sorry-for-accidentally-banning-them-from-the-game/ Womp womp. You're wrong again.

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  • [quote][quote]Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] https://www.pcgamer.com/bungie-is-giving-destiny-2-players-dollar45-of-in-game-currency-to-say-sorry-for-accidentally-banning-them-from-the-game/ Womp womp. You're wrong again.[/quote] The entire article came from a twitter post from a guy -blam!- false information :/ read the article and check the sources before posting but you got a bad habit of that

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  • And the source is untrustworthy because? The original tweet is from a pretty prominent gaming reporter and I cannot find any source claiming he's lying. And the original poster has also given screenshots of unban messages from steam and Bungie. There's some supporting proof and nothing that proves it wrong. Go on and keep putting the L in gilgamesh. I'm out of here. I got things to do today that are more entertaining than seeing how far you go to avoid admitting you were wrong.

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  • Edited by Gilgamesh: 10/13/2023 9:41:50 PM
    [quote]And the source is untrustworthy because? The original tweet is from a pretty prominent gaming reporter and I cannot find any source claiming he's lying. And the original poster has also given screenshots of unban messages from steam and Bungie. There's some supporting proof and nothing that proves it wrong. Go on and keep putting the L in gilgamesh. I'm out of here. I got things to do today that are more entertaining than seeing how far you go to avoid admitting you were wrong.[/quote] Steam has nothing to do with any of it lmao, they wouldn’t send any messages about being unbanned unless you were VAC banned which is a ban STEAM hands out. Use your brain next time lol I’ve admitted im wrong to tons of people, just your narcissism prevents you from even reading any of that

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  • Edited by ACROCANTHUS: 10/13/2023 10:08:02 PM
    Okay buddy. Keep dreaming. I love that you've clung onto calling me a narcissist. It's really the pot calling the kettle black.

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  • [quote]Okay buddy. Keep dreaming. I love that you've clung onto calling me a narcissist. It's really the pot calling the kettle black.[/quote] Sure bud not like you stuck to the same thing every previous argument and only dropped it after being proven wrong and being called out for obvious lying

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  • You are aware that stop talking to you because you keep regurgitating the same flawed argument over and over no matter how many times I prove it wrong and I have better uses of time than arguing with a brick, right? Not because you "win" the argument? Right? You can't be that clueless on how poor your argumentative skills are. I've never lied on the Internet for clout of any form, you're just mad that people didn't agree with you. I've even linked a post from Bungie proving you wrong before and then you got mad, and even madder when I called out your hypocrisy. I'm done here. I'm not reading whatever dross comes off your keyboard next.

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  • [quote]You are aware that stop talking to you because you keep regurgitating the same flawed argument over and over no matter how many times I prove it wrong and I have better uses of time than arguing with a brick, right? Not because you "win" the argument? Right? You can't be that clueless on how poor your argumentative skills are. I've never lied on the Internet for clout of any form, you're just mad that people didn't agree with you. I've even linked a post from Bungie proving you wrong before and then you got mad, and even madder when I called out your hypocrisy. I'm done here. I'm not reading whatever dross comes off your keyboard next.[/quote] Yea conversation done You need help

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  • Edited by ACROCANTHUS: 10/14/2023 2:01:36 AM
    Talking to yourself in my absence I see. You really do need help

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  • [quote]Talking to yourself in my absence I see. You really do need help[/quote] Dude you need help go talk to a therapist

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  • Says the man in dire need of a therapist

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  • You cheat you get banned man up stop whining you got what you deserved fk all cheaters

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  • Edited by Karmgahl: 10/12/2023 4:46:07 AM
    Yes, because this account got unbanned like I said.. and posting on this forum when you're banned is an act of frustration and futility beacuse in the eyes of the people in this forum you're ALWAYS guilty. So it would only add to the pain when dealing with a situation like this and is simply not worth it.

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  • [quote]Yes, because this account got unbanned like I said.. and posting on this forum when you're banned is an act of frustration and futility beacuse in the eyes of the people in this forum you're ALWAYS guilty. So it would only add to the pain when dealing with a situation like this and is simply not worth it.[/quote] Dude, you are obviously making it all up Bungie doesn’t give free silver, AND battle eye will flag your account for a reason even if bungie did review it you would have been flagged for the same reasons thousands of other cheaters are. And whats Bungie supposed to do? Go through every program that was running through your PC at the time? Unless you can prove with video proof of everything running at the time of the ban you wont be unbanned. It 100% sounds like you paid someone to play on your account and they got it banned and you got on to see it banned.

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  • Not making up a single thing. Sorry if you're not beliving it (like most peple in this community). But you not beliving it doesn't make it any less true. Only way you'll now for sure is if/when it happens to you. And I'm not the only one affected by this. Game journalists have now started to take notice.. https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1711898585946521728?s=46&t=bhBRIBZhz-6Ecd1cnrE_YQ

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  • Edited by Gilgamesh: 10/12/2023 7:25:54 AM
    [quote]Not making up a single thing. Sorry if you're not beliving it (like most peple in this community). But you not beliving it doesn't make it any less true. Only way you'll now for sure is if/when it happens to you. And I'm not the only one affected by this. Game journalists have now started to take notice.. https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1711898585946521728?s=46&t=bhBRIBZhz-6Ecd1cnrE_YQ[/quote] It wont happen because im not gonna cheat lmao Ah yes quote the guy who posts a screenshot of a RESTRICTION and talks like its a ban. The screenshot he posted is literally what happens when you lag out of too many matches (or leave) yet he says its from getting banned lmao. Get better sources

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  • Edited by f3: 10/12/2023 1:11:24 AM
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    [quote][quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] Should’ve quoted it again with the added bit. You know, for clarity. Like this: [quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake. And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned[/quote] Just so we all know what you mean, because forums are oh so confusing.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] Should’ve quoted it again with the added bit. You know, for clarity. Like this: [quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake. And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned[/quote] Just so we all know what you mean, because forums are oh so confusing.[/quote] You quoted the whole wall again and just added the end i assume, if you added anything else im not reading the wall a second time

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] Should’ve quoted it again with the added bit. You know, for clarity. Like this: [quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake. And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned[/quote] Just so we all know what you mean, because forums are oh so confusing.[/quote] You quoted the whole wall again and just added the end i assume, if you added anything else im not reading the wall a second time[/quote]

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] Should’ve quoted it again with the added bit. You know, for clarity. Like this: [quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake. And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned[/quote] Just so we all know what you mean, because forums are oh so confusing.[/quote] You quoted the whole wall again and just added the end i assume, if you added anything else im not reading the wall a second time[/quote][/quote] Holy -blam!- thats a long post

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake.[/quote] Forgot to add “And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned” Man fr had a second inactive account preped for when he got banned a simple check on his stats shows it oddly hasn’t played till a few seasons ago and has 1 character leveled. Bud i hope this alt you resorted to gets banned as well, Bungie doesn’t give free silver lmao[/quote] Should’ve quoted it again with the added bit. You know, for clarity. Like this: [quote]So a about a month ago came home from work and sat down at my computer only to be met with a message on steam saying I had been banned from Destiny 2 permanently. This caught me completely of guard and made an already bad day A LOT worse. Not only did I not have the slightest clue what I may have done to deserve this. But a friend I often play with messaged me at around the same time and told me he was banned as well. It was BEYOND frustrating not even knowing WHY we got banned. The amount of frustration and powerlessness I felt was mindnumbing. We both immediatly sent in an appeal but the overall feeling you get from posts on steam and on this forum is that the appeal system is rarely responded to by bungie and unbans are even rarer. So I thought we we're both pretty much screwed. The overall feeling you get from the community is that you're always guilty and that there are no such thing as false bans. So it's not even worth writing about it. All you can do is send in an appeal and wait, which we did. Fast forward to now now, almost a month later and we both finally got a reply: [quote] Your Destiny 2 account has been unbanned effective immediately, and within a week we will grant you 5,000 Silver to use in the Eververse. We sincerely apologize for what must have been a frustrating experience. Along with a small number of other players, your account was inadvertently flagged as having tampered with game client functionality. While the overwhelming majority of these detections are accurate, we discovered that in extremely rare cases this detection may be triggered through no fault of the player. This error was determined as part of our auditing process and we acted as quickly as possible to validate the issue and rescind the small number of inadvertent flags. [/quote] The feeling when I recieved this was mixed to say the least. Of course I'm grateful that I got my account back. I seriously thought my destiny days were over weeks ago. But spending some of those weeks trying to remember or get to the bottom of what the heck I might have done wrong. Was it some app i had installed on my computer? Was I hacked? or did I inadvertently use an exploit? As well as the general feeling of powerlessness and whatever the feeling you get when you're falsely judged/accused did take it's toll. Due to this whole ordeal I've now got some trust issues not only with Bungie (even though they DID fix their mistake). But with the entire Game as a service deal (GaaS). Because I'm now rather weary of spending my cash and above all my time on a game that might be taken away from at a moments notice through no fault of my own. Either due to some human pushing a button for whatever reason or becuase of some automated system giving out false positives or some other human error. And there is NOTHING you as a consumer can do about it. Because somehow consumer laws doesn't seem to cover GaaS yet. Even though with GaaS a customer has the potential to throw a near limitless amount of money at the game. And yet the customer is somehow at the complete mercy of the company providing the service? That can't be right, right? From what I can gather Bungie has now had 3 ban waves only this year that have all contained false positive bans. So Bungie, you REALLY need to do BETTER. Getting falsely banned from a game, and not even getting a general reason as to why. Then also realizing that it's mostly down to luck if you get unbanned at all (by your own wording when you're about to write an appeal) is horrible. Because it means all that time and money that you've spent on the game has been for naught. And If you keep this up not only are you risking more of your players trust, you might even risk hurting the industry at large, at least the GaaS part. I'm grateful I got unbanned but if you insist on perma-banning players please make VERY VERY sure they actually deserve it and please for the love of all that is holy PROVIDE a reason, not even getting a hint as what might have gone wrong or what you as a player might have done wrong was painful. Also don't let it take a month to realize your mistake. And thats why im posting from my account that wasn’t banned[/quote] Just so we all know what you mean, because forums are oh so confusing.[/quote] You quoted the whole wall again and just added the end i assume, if you added anything else im not reading the wall a second time[/quote][/quote] Holy -blam!- thats a long post[/quote]

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