Following the finale mission, dialogue within Savathun's Spire has changed to include new dialogue from Savathun, Immaru, Eris, and Ikora. Most noteably, among these are references to that seem to point towards Ahamkara/Riven. [quote][url=https://youtu.be/C2w9UXxue3g?si=NsaGij8_Pt22Fe6b]Savathun[/url]: My sister feels her worms gnawing hunger, gnawing away at her for running away from us. She had to keep testing her strength if she didn't want to be eaten alive... and she has no one left to love. Now you see: I needed my Worm exorcised so I could tell you the truth. And didn't I hold up my end of the bargain. I knew you could do it. You've done so many impossible things... O murderer mine.[/quote] The last time we heard the words, "O murderer mine." We had just slain Riven the Last [i]Known[/i] Ahamkara. I can't shake the feeling that Bungie built themselves a contingency with their wording way back in Forsaken. Either they knew they weren't done with the Ahamkara or just wanted some security in case they decided to dust them off again. [quote][url=https://youtu.be/YKO1mJZhABY?si=yI9JX1mYhS_d75_Y]Immaru[/url]: Savathun took these guys apart and put them back together. She knows exactly how they work. They're a little Ahamkara trick. Wishing somebody back doesn't always mean they'll come back the same. I heard Eris knows a thing or two about wishing. Too bad you put Riven in the ground. Sounds like you could use a wish or two.[/quote] Can't say I completely disagree with Immaru here, IT IS beginning to seem like nothing short of an Ahamkara wish will get us through that portal now. [quote][url=https://youtu.be/2A7J4EGehm0?si=LwCs2kmNtrKesw66]Ikora & Eris:[/url] Ikora: Eris, I have sent a message to the Techeuns as you requested. Eris: Thank you, Ikora. Queen Mara will know the way forward. A long time ago, she listened when I warned her of Oryx's immanent threat. With this, she constructed a throne world of her own. It saved her life. May she arm herself with our knowledge once again.[/quote] We know for fact Mara has an Ahamkara Egg safely tucked away in the Keep of Voices. We saw it during Season of the Lost. However, this could also be Eris passing along information on the Imbaru Engine, especially since it shares some thematic and functional similarities with the Dreaming City curse. Also the consider Ye Olde Flavor atexts from the Wall of Wishes, specifically Wish 15. [quote]Wish 15 (which remains undiscovered): This one you shall cherish.[/quote] Then there's the Wish Card from the Deck of Whispers, as well as Eris mentioning the Anthem Anatheme earlier in the season in regards to Mara's theories on how the Wish Dragons powers work. Furthermore, we have long bygone lore about the Ahamkara from the D1 Grimoire: [quote]Think of how mysterious this system is, I said. How much life sprang up when the Traveler came. Like the Ahamkara. Do you know the legends? The dragon that made promises? And I pulled out the fossil with a flourish- -[url=https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-warlock#ahamkara]Ghost Fragment: Warlock[/url] [/quote] This particular quote seems to imply that the Ahamkara appeared shortly after the Traveler terraformed Venus. Perhaps granting them some unknown connection to the Traveler? We still have 3 more radio conversations still to go... Thoughts and theories, guys?