[quote]secondary[/quote] This is not your favorite console-only "shooter" (D1). [quote]Can you for the love of God change whisper, darci, and queenbreaker to secondary.[/quote] Or, we have them actually do damage in some form and not lose their slot-uniqueness. They wouldn't sit happy as specials either. The Jolt obviously didn't help DARCI much and that was quite forseeable (also, sniper jolt is terrible low because of the high crit multiplyer). They both imo need perk overhauls. ADSing for long enough so breathing is active is way too slow and simply does not yield enough reward. [quote]because the sacrifice of a heavy slot isn’t worth it[/quote] this is actually some useful text here [quote]On the topic of fallen weapons, what happened to dregs promise? There are a lot of weapons that are similar so I don’t get why it’s not in yet?[/quote] Because this is not D1. We have enough consoletrash-weapons autoaiming. Hell get Final Warning if you want that autoaim so damn much. I'd rather see some actual weapons for a good shooter experience.

I used to want this. Nobody would use these in the energy/kinetic/darkness slots either. They need buffs, and if you're going to buff them, might as well just keep them heavies and buff them to be viable heavies.

Also I forgot to make this point, but arbalest is easily a better fusion than queensbreaker despite queens being a heavy. Arbalest also allows for the heavy slot to be used by a more effective damaging weapon. If you wanted to do double linear heck I would argue stormchaser and reed’s regret are much better than queens. They’re also arc and stasis*. So it has more variation with damage types. Please be respectful with counter arguments and opinions. Discussions are fine obviously. Thanks

I can see reworks happening to those weapons but they're not going to change the slot.

I feel like part of their appeal as Exotics is that they are Power weapons of archetypes not found in the Power slot, like Legend of Acrius, Tractor Cannon, Leviathan's Breath, and Winterbite. It's likely Bungie wants to be especially careful when tuning them because it's a very delicate tipping point between viable and overpowered for these weapons in particular. If they're too good, everything else would see no usage. If they're not good enough, they would see no usage themselves. Bungie just needs to find that tipping point, however hard it may be. Hopefully the 10% buff to snipers in Season of the Deep will help.

Whisper and Darci should stay heavy. I much prefer diversity of weapon types in the slot. I'd rather both just be buffed to a point where they are actually good. Queen breaker should definitely be special though. I'm in agreement there, though blind would likely need to be taken away.

Whisper is Fine

That thing is a PvP monster (Queensbreaker) please return it to its home. UR and NLB need to comeback too loved UR sights. Whisper and Darci can stay as heavy but need a major utility or damage buff. Darci could have a major crit buff that could possibly get even stronger if you’re amplified…Whisper could have scorch for every shot and ignition on every third shot. Something because those weapons are definitely heavy worthy but need a good buff. Also I do miss Dregs Promise!

Whisper is still doing fine in it’s place as a high total damage weapon. Darci and Queenbreaker though are straight trash.

No, Queensbreaker should be left where is, and damaged buffed to exceed legendary lfrs