I actually liked the leviathan model. Where I can drop in on public events rather than be trapped in the same thing over and over. Getting the weapons did suck, but there was some good points to that seasonal model.

"working as intended"

[quote]Destiny doesn’t need anymore mind numbing grinds in the game.[/quote] Doesn't need and what you will get are 2 different things. This business is not in business to improve your experience playing the game, they are in business to keep you playing but in a way that is not enjoyable. I find it funny how players pretend running activities sometimes a couple of hundred times for 1 stupid item is "fun". "I'm farming" No, you are running on a hamster wheel hoping something will drop 😂🤦‍♂️

You'll live.

Personally I liked that grind the best simply because you can just keep spawning in and join a group that’s almost done the encounter. Season of the plunder I liked the least, I wasn’t a fan of having to do ketchcrash just to get map fragments.

Have to agree that grinding both the Haunted and the Opulent weapons was not a pleasant experience. I had to resort to using the focusing engrams options to complete a couple weapons because the RNG was not helping. I lost count on how many red border Drangs I got while trying to complete Austringer and after getting my first red border Firefright early in the season, I never saw another one until late season and only after I started doing the focused engram option with the Crown. I don't mind having to do the seasonal activity in order to get a red border seasonal weapon. It's when we have an extra set such as the Opulent and Ikelos that only have a limited avenue to obtain the red border that I have come really dislike.

Agree. Though running three nightmare events = currency for 1 red border can be done relatively quickly. 30 minutes? Yep, still a lot of time. I say Thx to Bungie for the daily Red Borders now as otherwise I had no chance to craft all the desired frames. Late partial improvement. However in contrast to the more recent seasons where better algorithms (it's not! RNG, it's governed by Bungie algorithms) were applied, the RNG/algorithm for the Leviathan were/are abysmal. Some weapons I got no single frame from the guaranteed weekly chest drops. Instead getting Austringers or Calus or Drang despite the fact I had crafted them already. A joke we get red borders for weapons with unlocked frames and no red borders for not unlocked weapons. Well, finally though by additional but controlled grind I got my Beloved and can get the remaining seasonal Haunted weapons. Edit: despite of crafting material economy and red border drop algorithms plus the inevitable weapon-upgrade-multi-grind I love crafting as I can determine exactly what I want within the limits of a given frame and personally I believe we got predominantly very strong weapons. A long way to get to the final enhanced version but worth the end result.

Recycle, reuse, reskin, and retire old weapons so players must regrind to reacquire.

I feel your pain man I was grinding for opulent keys for hours last night and got 3 side arms and 2 beloved snipers. I still need to get my ikelos red borders too. This system is absolutely terrible. If it’s gonna be this much of a grind they should not be vaulting seasonal content.