They are absolutely garbage even with the aspect and the exotic. They either need to do more damage or actually track for more then .3 seconds before exploding.
There is no reason for the grenade to not even one shot but do horrible damage AND have a long cooldown. Either you buff the damage or lower the cooldown, but one needs to happen. I feel like the only reason they haven't touched scatter nades is because warlocks have nothing manacles and the aspect. It's okay if warlocks have strong tools Bungie lol.
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Manacles and Chaos accelerant actually make the grenades worse. It’s comedic how ineffective they are
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Scatter grenades and Nothing Manacles haven’t been good since D1. Scatter grenades have been garbage throughout D2, and people got excited when Nothing Manacles were announced to return to Destiny. Turns out they make the grenade worse once you put them on. I wanna say they got buffed at some point, but probably not since no one runs them In Crucible
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Ibdont think theybfix the big for it at all. It not damage thats the problem its the fact they dont trabk when you nothing mannacles
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Its the best void nade by far for PvP. Got lots of 1 shots with it.
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Edited by Bore: 11/26/2022 5:09:17 PM[quote]They are absolutely garbage even with the aspect and the exotic. They either need to do more damage or actually track for more then .3 seconds before exploding. There is no reason for the grenade to not even one shot but do horrible damage AND have a long cooldown. Either you buff the damage or lower the cooldown, but one needs to happen. I feel like the only reason they haven't touched scatter nades is because warlocks have nothing manacles and the aspect. It's okay if warlocks have strong tools Bungie lol.[/quote] The base version of this grenade is extremely good. You will do 90%-100% of your enemies HP instantly if you hit them with it. It’s just high instant damage that can one hit if placed just right. Even if it doesn’t one shot, it still does a ton of damage.
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Pre 3.0 they were actually good and could ohk in pvp with practice and landing directly at their feet. Then bungie over nerfed them like a lot of grenades. I suspect it's largely because of void weakness and nothing manticals.
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It's even hard to one shot with nothing manacles and the weakening fragment if your target stands completely still. So inconsistent, what a joke.
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They have wanted to stray away from OHK grenades. Few exceptions are the sticky grenades. Even Incendiary grenades don’t OHK and it’s a frag.
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Edited by DuplexGorilla53: 11/26/2022 5:58:21 AMwell see they were good with nothing manacles back in D1 and anything that has been remotely good in the past is either nerfed into the ground or sunset. Doesn't matter how it may or may not tune in the current game cause they can't be bothered to think.
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Agreed…..Back in D1 those grenades with the exotic gloves made for very fun gameplay. Not so much in D2.
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As a Titan main I absolutely agree. I use my Warlock from time to time and I actually like the gauntlets with those grenades in D1 , but in D2 they are VERY underwhelming. Very underwhelming indeed. They REALLY do need a buff. Bothe the grenade and the gauntlets.
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According to bungie and the whole destiny community that make up like 70% of hunters, warlocks are fine and take the most skill, oh and “build issue” lol. Bro I’m gonna be honest, warlocks are the least played class for a reason. Im one of the few left and even I’m fed up, I’ve been playing cod and overwatch. If I didn’t love this game so much I wouldn’t be here on the forums but it feels like warlocks are beating a dead horse at this point. I suggest you just accept warlocks being trash and will continue to be trash until the game finally dies.