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11/10/2022 3:38:14 PM
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Playing Crossplay PVP with mixed Console/PC friends was eye-opening

I was on Xbox Series X last night, and hopped into Control with some PC friends. Oh my god, I thought regular match latency was rough on regular console-only Crossplay matches, but this was a whole new level of latency. It truly was almost unplayable. Fortunately, I have a PC that can play D2, so I tried that instead - night and day difference. I gotta say, Crossplay connections among the different consoles is usually rough, but console-pc was just awful. My friend said it's due to the different encryption packets the platforms use, and they just don't play well together. So, not exactly something Bungie can fix nor a problem with any individual player's internet. It makes me wish that disabling Crossplay on console didn't nuke the matchmaking pool. It's too bad that it adjusts the search purely based on that toggle rather than allowing for something like XB (crossplay on) to match with another XB (Crossplay off), and so it would result in all XBox users without allowing non-XB. Instead it's just a hard line of on/off matching only. The lag in PVP is the primary issue with D2 that really gets under my skin, and now I have to question if I want to play on PC more just for the apparently better connections. I'll have to think about it, but, for those that play PC regularly, what do you think about the connection quality overall? For Bungie's side I guess, is there anything that can be done improve this stuff?

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  • cross play pc -console is ok, crossplay console-console is bad, console stability is trash after all

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  • Wifi players with 250kbps internet blaming Cross play for poor connections...

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  • Unlike what some of these other idiots are crying crossplay isnt the issue, it IS a bungie problem. No other AAA game that has crossplay struggles this much. Bungie just literally doesnt know what theyre doing anymore

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    • Edited by Lord Magris: 11/11/2022 5:57:23 AM
      It's not just console/PC crossplay issues, but also old-gen/new-gen issues as well. If you were to play on old gen like I did, it's just the same regardless of your opponents' platform. I've wasted mags of SMG on some players just to see them not take damage. I don't really have that issue on PC either but obviously old gen is at the bottom of the barrel.

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    • Remove PvP and there is no problem

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      • Never noticed any change since crossplay was added and I've played with PC players too. Except for one cheater with infinite colony ammo.

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      • It's so bad... In average pvp it's annoying but the stakes are so low, who cares. But trials is a whole different ball game. The connections and hit reg are usually so bad, it feels like an inevitable loss whenever you match with a crossplay team. So much so that in the early days, some streamers openly would try to get a buddy to run console for them to weigh the balance in their favor. Also worth mentioning, this isn't a pvp only problem. The tower isn't loading? Check your roster, bet it's full of console players! Patrol zone feel like you're running through jello? Crossplay. Gambit EXTRA bad? You know the drill... I enjoy the idea of crossplay, but the execution is very poor right now and PC doesn't get the option to turn it off like console does... Never understood why.

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      • Edited by More Power: 11/11/2022 3:36:32 PM
        People who talk about poor connection quality rarely include their location. Just a hunch, but the biggest complaints are likely from those living in far away places….

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        • -blam!- cross play

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        • Remove cross play in pvp.

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        • Remove cross play.

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        • If they get dedicated servers it will fix it. It’s the peer to peer system that’s ruining everything because the different platforms don’t play well together as you said. [spoiler]nibbles crayon[/spoiler]

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          • I hardly ever play PvP so definitely take this with a grain of salt, but when we play with PC players (my friends and I are all on Xbox with one person on PC who plays with us sometimes) we don't really notice a problem and my friend who plays with us on his PC has never complained, but when we get matched with PS players it almost always feels laggy. I've heard basically everyone in my clan complain about crucible against PS but no one really complains about PC (initially yeah, but not for a long time.) Not saying that's how it is, just that's been my experience.

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            • I used to just leave if there were console players in a pc lobby… terrible terrible experience

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