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10/30/2022 12:11:55 PM
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Why is legitimate criticism met with hostility?

Why is legitimate criticism of the game we love and care about met with such hostility on this platform? Making games is hard, making big games is even harder. Reading up on actually constructive feedback on these forums, they usually fall into one of these: - Something positive was done to reinforce long-term health of this game, implementing things that are respectful towards the people playing the game, and are well thought out and genuinely wonderful. - Something that, in retrospect, feels like a misguided attempt at doing a good thing, which resulted in something bad happening instead. - Something that straight up should not have happened, and somehow was never questioned even in concept stage. - "The saddest thing about the past 3 years of destiny’s content model is having to watch my friends put it down one by one :/" -@MacticsG1 - Basic issues, frustrations and bugs that negatively impact the experience of actually playing the game. - Aggressive monetisation that dictates game design on a fundamental level. While there are people unironically screaming about their life being over, most people are expressing their concerns in good faith. There are legitimate problems with this game, the direction it's headed, the longevity of things we pay for, and overall decisionmaking. Anyone who plays Destiny will face some of these problems. Every single post I see about these issues are filled with replies along the lines of: - "oMG JuST STOP complaining / playing the game then / go play cod" - "so what you're saying is you're a bad player lol" - "word of the day is entitlement" - [insert incoherent rambling that is clearly a result of a sunken cost-fallacy] - "bungie is allowed to do whatever it wants" - "it doesn't affect me so clearly you are objectively wrong and a horrible human being. in this thread i will... 1/666" A lot of these responses also include scouring all of the players' pvp / pve stats and playtime, using them as some kind of a weapon for personal insults. That is incredibly toxic, and shifts attention from the actual problems. It is okay to critisise things we love! In fact, it is good, healthy, and should be encouraged. Unconditional love of a product gets disturbingly unhealthy real quick. People point out problems in something they are passionate about because they want the game to be in a better state! If the people who wish to see Destiny last as a timeless classic, and flourish among both new lights and veterans alike, get pushed out of the game with this hostility, all that is going to be left is an echochamber of hate and blind acceptance of things that are not good for the game, the community, and the perception of the game. We are better than this, let's not resort to senseless tribalism. We're all on these forums because we care about Destiny - let's be kind, and not silence each other for daring to say something vaguely disapproving of the game or Bungie.

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  • The answer to you your question is in your own words- The source of of all hostility is intolerance. Late into your fine post, you implore “us” to do better and nor resort to tribalism. People are gonna do what they want and you cant change that…just like Bungie is gonna build the game they want and there is not much we can do to change it… Why do people check kds and playtime? Because they take all the feedback seriously and want to challenge ideas with facts. They are passionate about the game too. They just approach things differently than you would and that can be fine. I am 100% sure that people’s frustrations with real life spill over to their comments. Having a bad day? Why not let off steam in the comments. But there is legitimate frustration with the game and in general Bungie doesnt a) quickly own mistakes and b) take player feedback seriously. And as a side note it probably takes 3m-1y to change most serious issues- so what we want is likely unrealistic given we want things now ….Just about every brand on earth would love to have an engaged community that tells them what they want from the product…but Bungie plays to the beat of its own drum and often times players are frustrated that they are telling them exactly what they want and not getting it…at the same time even good change can cause anger. If 20% of people dont like something that might be 200k players… So IMO its current social norms + manners + hopeless desperation + passion for the game/franchise that manifest into the comment section.

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