What's truly sad is it is day 3 and I don't have a clear even. I spent the whole day yesterday shuffling through LFG groups, most of them didn't even know the raid. Get it all explained someone leaves and then have to explain all over again to the new guy. All of this while basically babysitting making sure everyone is positioned right, doing the mechanics right. Running Aeons because nobody else has them. Doing the harder mechanics because nobody wants to do them. Clearing the most ads because they sure as heck aren't. It's sad to me. The mechanics of the raid are simple when executed properly. There are so many guides out, why not watch one thoroughly before you join an lfg raid? Just a rant. The casual community in this game ruins it for me. I'd rather play with above average gamers and get it done.

I know a guy that got in an LFG and got day 1. He doesn't play much and doesn't have optimal load out options by any stretch. It's about the TEAM, not the requirements. That's him I didn't have a team and got it like hr 25. Oh well. Had people with absolutely no clue how to do a D1 version in day 1. Sub optimal for me. That's me Then there's OP. Your team has an issue with dps clearly. Go in next time with more prep.

Yeah… The insane dps check that requires near best dps in the current meta was [i]very[/i] annoying. It’s even worse considering that enemies weren’t even a problem for my team and we cleared totems relatively fast. But needing aeons and killing the knights at the last possible second and having the god rolled linears and snipers… It’s just [i]too much[/i] in my opinion.

Yeah, I have to agree. The LFG team I was with had one solid run where we got as long a damage window we could every time and used all 4 damage phases with Izanagi-swapping Stormchasers, Wells and a Div, barely did 60% of Warpriest's health. That despirited us, because we had no idea what we could do to almost double our damage when everyone was using meta loadouts and playing well. Everyone has to be using a meta loadout, play flawlessly, stack every buff and debuff at all times [i]and[/i] the whole team has to get lucky with ammo all throughout. Having seen what Warpriest Challenge Mode is, I'm astonished that any team was able to beat it, given how much DPS time you have to sacrifice just to avoid an instant wipe.

95 percent of destiny is meant for the casual player. And there is nothing wrong with that. But the 2 times a year we get contest mode in a raid for us "sweats" it is what we look forward to. Let us have it. Sorry it is a difficult test for you, and I hope you all use contest to make you and your team better players. Until the next one

sorry, but its supposed to be hard. that's what makes it rewarding

Totems is to long warpriest had to much health and will probably be a joke at reset golgorath perfect daughters is fine oryx is eh

Only the most die-hard people who eat, drink & sleep Destiny can get these day one raids & challenges done. Casual players don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.

What’s funny is that you think that Bungie actually does play testing.

As someone who managed to clear it Day 1 with the exception of Daughters (Called it after Golgoroth, my clan finished and I could only find an Oryx cp), I do agree that the difficulty curve with some of the contest bosses is ridiculous. Warpriest took 7 hours. Golgoroth was an easy 2 phase once we switched to a Warlock heavy team for damage, couldn't have taken more than 2 hours. Oryx was the same when I hopped in with a new set of LFG teammates, 2 hours and done. It feels like Bungie could tune certain bosses better for Contest.

People said they might add champions to the raid. I'm curious is there any or any lucient hive?

Well, the way I look at it is the whole advertising structure for the game was customization, then everything released and it almost feels like being lied to. Every single thing in the game from the easiest to the hardest should be built around that premise. I mean what is the point of having all this customization when the end game is always [i]"Must have ___________."[/i] because its the only real effective thing? It defeats the entire premise of Destiny and games like it. Bungie focusing on more top tier players instead of the majority, which, for a live service game is the make or break factor, is a bad recipe for exactly what we see. Just the average raid participation is dismal, and sure they should be the most difficult activities, but its egregiously over-micromanaged in efforts to make it hard for those top people. These should be able to be done by most players with a basic functional build, being more or less difficult depending on build quality. Its about the experience right? Then why is nobody experiencing it? Because its just not built for them. If it is that hard for the most dedicated and skilled builds and players, what hope do the rest of the players have to even have the experience? For the people who want it super hard, its as simple as doing things like Nightfalls are done, or adding extra hard hurdles. Generally the rewards for these harder activities in games should just be cosmetic, or an exclusive title, and nothing more, because its about the experience, not about creating an elite gamer group. In my experiences, people who truly understand skill, understand the need for balance, that most people don't perform at that level, and understand they will find things much easier without complaint, and they seem to be ok with getting just a title, or cosmetic or something, because its solely about the challenge; its not about a physical reward to enforce the will of the scrub gods and make it known how superior they are forever. I think the big issue with most of this game in identity and activities is Bungie wants niche, but they want to build a live service for the masses. Niche doesn't allow that. Destiny is unique, but not niche. I feel that's why the struggle is so real though. A game built for masses as a live service needs to keep everything relatively broad with optional extra difficulty on as close to every activity as possible.

Never did a day 1 raid before but yesterday was my first time and my team also struggled at warpriest. I was doing well over 5 mil In 3-4 phases but my team couldn’t keep up. I wouldn’t say it’s an issue with contest mode being challenging, but more so your team is just not equipped to handle it. If 5-6 people are using good loadouts for damage & ad clear i can imagine contest mode being cake.

Fk that mess and stress, looks like I’m waiting a good month to give it a try… It was never this bad in D1 When Rise of Iron was out. Kings Fall was quite doable then. The game as a whole has really lost its fun factor and now it’s just catered to select class of Content Influencer Elites. Soon it will be nothing but arrogant A holes requesting: “Must have Emblem, 30 Clears and KWTD or get Kicked!”