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4/6/2022 3:52:55 AM
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Behemoth Titan needs some...work
TLDR: Behemoth titan is too clunky, slow, and unreliable to ever be competitive in pvp.
Hunters are good at slowing targets.
Warlocks are good at freezing targets.
And titans are good at, making crystals?
The behemoth titan had its glory days, and now is the worst super for pvp. In pve is great and honestly one of my favorites, but it needs some love if it is ever going to be viable in pvp.
When you make a subclass entirely build around making and breaking crystals, then nerfing crystals, it makes almost every aspect of behemoth worse.
I'm not saying to buff crystals, but rather give behemoth less "clunky-ness". Everything feels slowand clunky; animations take too long before and after use, melee is slow, the super is slow, and so on.
For the Super: first of all, having a super that makes crystals and relies on the melee, then giving both a HARD nerf has made the super useless. Then they made it take longer between slams and melees, and removed freezing guardians on cast? This super is downright pointless and does not make me feel powerful. I can do everything the super can with my normal abilities. I feel like reverting some of the nerfs for the super would help alot.
Secondly, the Aspects: they have good synergy, but it feels like I'd have to use more than 2 if I ever want a "decent" build. There's builds that are good at making crystals and better ability cooldowns, but aren't good at breaking them. Then there's builds good at breaking crystals and movement, but can't really make crystals often enough to take advantage of the abilities. I have tried many different builds but nothing ever just "works" good enough to compete.
It feels like behemoth needs an overhaul, or a revert of a lot of nerfs.
I left out alot on here and didn't go too indepth like I would like, but I need to keep it consice.
If you made it this far, thanks. Let me know how you feel on this. No big YouTube or create has really talked about this that I've seen.
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In my opinion, Behemoth is a neutral game class whose super is good at dealing with non-super guardians. Similarly to Golden Gun and Stormtrance. Crystals are the name of the game with behemoth. With the lack of freeze on cast, Crystal generation isn’t as good. Behemoth has two ways to build into it (in my option. Trapping and Defense Trapping: - Behemoth has multiple movement options that not only maintain momentum, but instantly shatter stasis crystals. - This allows you to set up barriers for your opponents that you can easily pass through. Defense: - Focuses on Whisper or Chains and Rime to generate overshields and reduce damage. - Focuses on high Crystal uptime and how easily titans can generate stasis shards for their team. - Glacier + Winter’s Howl + Hoarfrost = every ability generates crystals that can be shattered for ability regen and overshields or kept around. For a flat damage resist. The super’s melee is great at closing the gap and locking down massive areas. It definitely needs a little help, but it’s good at what it’s meant for: slowing enemies down and keeping them locked in an area. May not be the best in Trials/Comp, but there are multiple subclasses that are that way (6-Shooter Golden Gun, Stormtrance, Burning Maul). Small tweaks can go a long way, pretty sure 3 defensive behemoth titans sitting in the middle of the map was a legit strat in trials last season…
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Yup. Subclass got neutered hard.
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The super and melee system is pretty mediocre. Could have been a huge rock smash similiar to OG FOH for the super. The melee could have been a version of a rocket punch. You can tell they put more effort and emphasis in the Hunter. Even the Warlock’s super and melee is mediocre. Mayhem showcases with super is superior in this game currently and I can ensure you it isnt Behemoth. Even Shadebinder can be shut down pretty easily due to how it has to freeze and shatter.
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1 ReplyStasis as a whole sucks now. Freeze for 1 sec is a joke when I I am at range and the fact that my opponent gets bonis armor for being frozen makes it more of a liability. Slows do not slow at all the hunter smoke bomb slows and obscures a way better tool. Titans can still make crystals its just that super is garbage 40 super resistance 5 if you use fragment is a joke for a slow and long wind up super it should've stayed a 60 especially since its a low end and low charge super you will only see it once. The fact I can get my dawnblade 3 times being tier 1 while you will only see behemoth once being a tier 2 is just pathetic. Stasis is a dead subclass because of garbage players.
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Behemoth was a mistake and should be completely reworked. Whenever someone in my fireteam starts spamming crystals all over and blocking my view or getting me killed by my own rockets, I immediately ask them to change it up.
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Edited by AubsTheBelieber: 4/6/2022 8:25:38 AMYou must be right cause I have [b]never[/b] seen someone using Behemoth in PVP. Not even once. [spoiler]Keep in mind I didn't play during the first season of Beyond Light. I quit till they said they were no longer going to do sunsetting.[/spoiler]
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yeah i like cryoclasm in crucible but similarly to the movement from shatterdive, one good mobility option isn't enough when combined with the worst super and abilities
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6 RepliesIt is called behemoth...it is meanth to be slow and tanky. It is the super with the highest resist if you play it right...it also has its own healing in super. It is by far the best stasis super. Also...hunter HAD slow. Slow now does nothing.
