Glacier grenades shouldn't be able to be shattered unless they are fully formed. That will stop the cheese associated with shatterdive. Even though titans can do it too

[quote]The easiest way to balance this, would be to make glacier grenade crystals have a brief startup animation, akin to lightening grenades, or axion bolt grenades. You would throw the glacier grenade, Stasis mist would begin to form around a small area - until spikes shoot out, in its traditional, or enhanced form.[/quote] personally no, this is a bad idea. at the end of the day glacial nades on warlock and titan are balanced. I dont see why Hunters should force a rework of an already working and balanced nade. I said it previously to someone else, but shatterdive needs to be tied to melee regen which is inherently tied to strength stat, even at 100 strength your melee cooldown will be around 43 seconds. for shatterdive I think this is fair if you also factor in 100 discpline giving a 53 second cooldown. now there are ways to improve regen on said abilities but this imo is a more balanced approach as your "forcing" a build option that requires some effort to get into a viable state [i]rather than its current form of just slapping on shatterdive and having back to back shatterdives with no penalty. [/i] the fact in trials I can chain shatterdive back to back within what I believed was a 10 second window is to be frank -blam!- stupid. its literally a stasis version of ballistic slam which is well tied to strength because its a melee and has activation requirements like jumping in the air while sprinting. I dont see why shatterdive isnt "seen" as a melee in terms of regen and activation requirements.

My idea was that the grenade could be like an opposite Duskfield that repulses targets away This would mean since they’re repulsed away the shattering of the crystals can’t kill them And now you can give the glacier grenade a more defensive style because you can repulse enemies away from you

I think tying shatter dive to a hunters jump height might make more sense. The specifics I am thinking of is that the closer you are to your max jump height the more effective the shatter dive is Therefor requiring you to more or less be at the apex of your jump making you more vulnerable and more obvious that your about to dunked on by a shatter dive. Or: you need to be at least this high off the ground to activate shatter dive either one fulfills the change I am thinking of

Just removed the freezing concept for Stasis in PVP and allow “Slow” to become the element in PVP.

They nerf dawnblade and buff this easy mode class, solo bungie at its finest🤡

The main issue is shatterdrive is great in PvE. PvP is a tiny part of Destiny, it should not ruin PvE again.

All of the ideas are awful. How is it fair to make it use a Merle charge. How is it ever fair to make an ability that doesn’t do damage cost a melee charge? Why should hunters have to use two charges for a kill? How is that more reasonable than people learn to avoid it? And the running start air thing doesn’t work currently for Titans and shouldn’t be applied to a class that shouldn’t be charging at enemies. Also you have to stop running to throw the grenade and freeze no longer works as long so it would make stasis useless for hunters.

So make it useless is what you are saying😂 In pvp and PvE. It was made to give other classes a titan barricade like ability...to block off areas fast.

If you think about, hunters have some the worst grenades in the game. Regardless what sub classes.

Stop running blindly around corners. Next?

It's already been nerfed 3 times if you die to shatterdive repeat after me: It was my fault.

this is a great idea. personally i like the dive for added mobility, rather than this ugly combo, having it consume melee wouldn't punish shatterdive enough to put an end to it- but it would punish you enough to no longer use it for mobility.. really bad take that one is

No stasis has already been neutered enough and most guns have been nerfed. The same people complaining will always complain at this point its a broken record. They even gave you an opportunity to break out mid air and it lasts a laughable 1 sec if you get caught you deserve it.