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Edited by GlassEyeJoeAgain:
7/24/2021 2:40:00 AM
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Sweet Business catalyst rework idea
Ok so ill start by saying im obviously biased on sweet business. I love that gun. However it has one of the problems that loads of other exotic primaries have. Mainly, they are not powerful enough to use in high end PvE content. I have successfully used the Sweet Business in raids and have done all Grandmaster Nightfalls using it, however against champions and especially against bosses of any kind it is absolutely lacking in damage output. Here is my idea
make the current reduced flinch when fully spun up intrinsic
catalyst rework: every 2 seconds (can even reduce to 1 second) of SUSTAINED fire without missing adds a stacking damage bonus (think swashbuckler) stacks up to 3 times. Reloading, missing more than 5 bullets or switching targets resets all stacks.
For a gun that is meant for killing everything in front of you with a hail of bullets, why not help it do just that on stronger targets. It fits the narrative of the weapon. The changes ive proposed would give it much more viability on champions, bosses, and other bullet sponges with the added benefit of NOT breaking the crucible. Sweet business is already great in crucible. It might not be the best, but its certainly very good already and doesnt need any help.
thoughts? comments?
Ps: please dont flame, just trying to have a discussion about my much beloved weapon.
Bump! This isnt just a Sweet Business issue. When was the last time you tried using Last Word in a grandmaster? Im not saying it is impossible to do however far too many exotic primaries (white ammo bricks) are severely lack lustre in the highest PvE content. With Bungie saying they have ideas on how to fix that very issue, why not have the very people who love the game they have created give them their honest ideas to fix it. Im not saying inject major power creep with severely overpowered perks/changes. If however you are like me and have an honest idea to address exotic primaries being pushed to the side in high end PvE content including but not limited to all master level content, grandmaster level content, normal and master raid encounters then feel free to add it here!
and dont forget my baby, the sweet business...
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Thats one small BUMP for a man. One giant BUMP for mankind!!!
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One of the last bumps ill give this thread. Id love to get some more ideas and feedback. Remember, its not just a sweet business problem. It is a lot of exotic primaries that have little to no incentive for you to use them.
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Bump! Ive had more than a few people like the original post and its follow up descriptions. Ive also had some very good counter points to my post. This is great! Keep the thoughts and comments coming.
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shave and a haircut.....bump bump!!
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Bumppitty bump,
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3 RepliesTbh I don’t think that would help it clear adds any better, since most trash mobs are dying in less than a second as it is. And it’s not like you’re going to be using it as DPS for champs or bosses.
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3 RepliesEdited by IAGNRG: 7/24/2021 8:01:21 PM1) This is the whole function of coldheart, so let’s not encroach. 2) Explosive rounds
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bump! lets get some more ideas and feedback!
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3 Repliesyeehaw. i say buff it! and sturm too while theyre at it
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Edited by GlassEyeJoeAgain: 7/23/2021 5:25:26 PMI doubt it will happen on such a small thread, but id love to get an official response from Bungie concerning the Sweet Business and exotic primaries in general.
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4 RepliesYou know us Titans will abuse it to the Stars......
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2 RepliesEdited by Astartes Marine: 7/22/2021 4:43:42 PMI would also like it to work more like Heir Apparent in that the zoom function spins the barrels rather than aiming. Standard hip fire - unchanged Zoom - no aim down sight but gun behavior remains unchanged like recoil, accuracy, etc, slight screen zoom, barrels spin up, movement speed same as aim down sight (walking pace). It's a minigun, you don't aim for total precision with a minigun.
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1 ReplySo how would that part of reloading work with say actium or walking over primary?
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bump!
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1 ReplyI like the idea of taking the cat now and making that intrinsic. Would you be happy with something like the perk from DMT on Sweet Business? Rapidly hitting crits will stack a damage bonus. Each stack is 3% and it goes to 5 stacks. Possible 15% bump during those boss phases.
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Edited by GlassEyeJoeAgain: 7/21/2021 9:30:51 AM*post removed for redundancy*
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2 RepliesIntroduce a new perk: Cashing In - kills with this weapon increase Reload speed Basically it’s like Rapid Hit but can proc from body shots as well as precision. Up to 5x and it would last up to five seconds with the means to reset the timer and stack with another kill.
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bump for more visibility
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1 ReplyI love sweet business as well, 32k+ kills with it. What would help it big time would be faster reload. With out reload mods or primary ammo bricks laying around it sucks waiting 45 seconds to shoot again.
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1 ReplyI like the idea sweet business is a fire weapon would def love to have a reason to use it more
