I'm running a minimum of 3 battlegrounds to create one of these things (2 if I'm lucky with the rune), which is around 20mins with a solid group. In what universe is 20mins for an extremely subpar roll of any armor worth it compared to just running 3x dungeon CPs, DSC, or even the GMNF?
I think umbrals need to be revisited before you throw them into our face again. The last time umbrals existed, they were amazing for farming rolls and getting gear with a reasonable effort. You've simply made it a boring slog of laggy, teleporting enemies and (if not heavyweight) bullet sponge bosses that can one-stomp you depending on the singe.
Community, please do your thing and get Bungie to hear us on loot issues. We did it for Trials and GMNFs getting adept weapons/mods, let's fix the rest. Maybe we'll get old umbrals back in 2 years!
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Edited by JazzyPaladin477: 3/18/2021 5:54:08 PMUmbrals are just a nuisance like they were last time. I get way better drops smashing chests and doing activities then I ever get from the engrams, I basically had all the god roles befor I was even able to focus an engram. if I could delete them on sight I would. Ugly ass low stat armor most of the time. They just fill up your postmaster and you have to fly to helm for some reason to go through a cumbersome 3 step process to focus/get rid of them. The chalice system was sooooooooooooo much better. Even the saint 14 time machine thing was way better.