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8/17/2020 10:12:07 PM
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Ada, Black Armory, sunsetting, returning players
When I stopped playing Destiny it was still under Activision. Part of the reason I left is everything I enjoyed doing kept vanishing. I loved the faction grind for Dead Orbit, loved Crucible, and we saw both suffer under Activision. After much persuasion from friends trying to convince me that Bungie has worked so hard and fixed so much, that I should come back as I would love Destiny like I used to, I did and I do. They were right, it's amazing again.
But like here we go again.. lol a friend just told me about sunsetting... now that my new favorite thing on Destiny in place of Dead Orbit is Ada and the Black Armory, it's going away. ZzzZ
So my question is why? I understand why the Dead Orbit is gone, the lore kind of demanded it. It would be nonsensical for them to have remained. The city needed to come together after it almost fell and all that, I understand why factions are gone. But I don't understand why they are just trashing Black Armory and Ada. Ada goes into this whole thing about the future of the Armory, and how guardians getting access is this new direction they're embracing. The weapons are gorgeous, they feel good, it gives me that faction grind feel... I really don't understand why they don't just sunset her current arsenal if they MUST I guess, and just give us new Armory objectives and weapons. Like, keep Ada around, keep the Armory, just refresh the content.
My own bad timing I guess but it's super frustrating to come back, have this new thing I love, and now it's gone like next month... REALLY frustrating and takes a lot of the wind out of my sails. I enjoy the pve part of Destiny, I like Black Armory, and I LOVE doing the forge even when I don't have a frame. It's chaotic and challenging and fun. And I reiterate again, why trash the whole armory? Is there a replacement faction for it? Or more of that old frustration of just a gaping hole where content used to be? Bungie, just refresh the Armory, don't ghost it. I love Ada, and the lore, and the Armory, just bring new objectives in instead of closing the doors.
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This is one of my favorite arguments in the destiny forums. Chok full of easy to find questionable facts, some really well supported truths and just the right amount of spite and anger. The simple truth of the matter is that bungie is not a publisher, they are developers. So here we are nearing the end of year 1 post activision and there has been little to no new content. Just regurgitation, reskins and more unnecessary monetary items. They are in over their heads trying to publish and develop. That should be obvious by the fact that most publishers are billion dollar plus corporations on the stock exchange and developers are privatly owned llc's (at least in bungies case). It takes money and resources to keep a game "running". Bungie NEEDS to find a new publisher so we can get what we deserve from them. Development! You may hate activision but they are like wallmart. Everyone says they hate that place, while they are once again shopping there. We need the real bungie back. You remember them, they brought us D1, forsaken, black armory, raids with insane graphix and mechanics, exotics with actual quest lines, zero hour, whisper quest and scorn. Well, we can forgive them for scorn, not every ball goes over the fence. Post activision there is no imigination because all their money and resources are focused on publishing. Ok, I kind of got on a soap box there but when something so great is going so bad its hard to watch. If I were a pvp player I sappose I would not even see the problems. Pvp is simple to run and takes no real devolpment. Yet even there bungie is regurtating maps and some pvp players would really like something new. Pve is just trash now and so is the player base. 90 to 110k daily users now versus 900k to 1.1m during forsaken. Look to Steam for that fact. To sum it up, bungie is great at what they do, but they dont do publishing. For those of us who love this game I think we should all agree that they need a new publisher, fast. If you really read the roadmap of the next 3 years bungie posted you might be surprised. Its very well worded but lays out how vaulting will allow them to regurtate old content when they have nothing new. Integrating D1 is an easy splash of content we paid for and played before. And they even admit the game is too large for them to handle thus vaulting and sunsetting. Really really read it. Dont skim over it and get the impression were getting 3 new raids in year 1 or new fun stuff like the whisper quest. Its 3 years with 3 raids which 2 will likely be from D1. A new planet but no true mention of a new enemy. Not a word worth knowing about quests, strikes, pvp maps, gambit maps, etc. I can easily get 60 bucks worth of joy from what they are offering but its highly probable that when the next gen consoles drop another game will emerge as the better choice. And it will be because they did it right with a developer and a publisher. Food for thought!
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6 RepliesI don't think Black Armory is getting Vaulted. Both of the Forge planets are still going to be around. If you like the Forges, have you done the Menagerie? That is well made. It has a very good balance of work for rewards. And it is pretty fun, too. The Menagerie, however, takes place on the Leviathan. Which has been confirmed to be getting Vaulted. On a side note; Forsaken, the Black Armory, and Menagerie were done with help from Activision. The seasonal model we have suffered through this past year was all Bungie.
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2 RepliesThere has been no confirmation that the black armory is leaving and as such I would not expect that it is. So until they officially say it’s leaving, black armory is safe from the DCV.
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3 RepliesEdited by The Hermit IX: 8/18/2020 7:39:17 PMThey should leave Black Armory weapons out of sunsetting. They should in the very least allow Blast Furnace, Hammer Head, Kindled Orchid and Tatara Gaze to be grandfathered into the new year. There aren’t viable replacements atm.
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They've never said that forges are going away to my knowledge. Forges are on Nesus and EDZ and those are both staying.
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3 RepliesSeriously forges are your favourite thing? Throwing balls at a post?
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10 RepliesUmmmm Activision were just the publishers... not the games directors. The removal of content and direction of game design.... That’s all Bungies doing as it’s always been “ their “ game.
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Lol we getting way off topic so let me say something... look folks.. I like the Black Armory, some people don't. I like the changes to Destiny 2, I like the current state of D2, some folks don't. That's okay, we can disagree, I don't hate ya, I'd still save you if you if you were drowning. <3 K? I just want Black Armory to stick around. lol
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You got questionable friends choices but power to you
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As much as I didn’t care for most of the Black Armory stuff, I’m gonna miss Hammerhead. I also have a feeling that Bungie is just going to reissue the Black Armory forge weapons, if they’re not going to get rid of the forges.
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Um weapon reprisal? Which is obviously happening? Which Cozmo said that before sunsetting hits we would get a very detailed explanation of? Which may have all past version be infusable into the new LL?
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4 RepliesHave bungie actually confirmed the Black Armory content (aside from the raid) is leaving? It'd make sense to keep it considering it's all set on planets that aren't going anywhere
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I don't believe Ada is going away. Scourge is going away, which does suck, but I haven't read or seen anything that implies Ada and the Forges are going away.
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3 RepliesTheeHappyDalek you make some valid points and I agree that ever verse should be removed from this game. But Whether we wanted it or not, we’ve stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let’s get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta’aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
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The lore from the Fusion rifle Hollow Words has the Dead Orbit and New Monarchy helping to evacuate the Vaulting planets and Ada-1 teaming up with Laksmi-2 (FWC) for help on project Stronghold??? Maybe we will get more with the Exodus quest...
