Yes, i know all this arms are very special for just "giving away" to all players but listen my point, the most of this arms are meta for the pve, so why i need to go pvp to get them? Yes i know there are arms of vanguard that i can get if i dont play pvp, but this arms are NOT the best for pve even pvp, and the MT, recluse, lunas howl, etc are great and awesome for pve, again, why i need to play pvp for this arms that are veeeery useful for pvp more than pvp...i dont say bungie need to change the form to get them or just giving away, no, just another form to get them, like "ok you dont want to go pvp for mountain top but you can have it for making pve too" thats will be very great more for NEW players that see the requirements fpr these arms and they feel intimidated for this, and i know what im talking about cuz i have a looot of friends that thinks the same, and a loot of friends that hate pvp cuz they feel so unbalanced and frustrating, please bungie, do for the new players, for us, give us another form to get this arms, not just pvp. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]