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2/8/2020 5:13:05 AM
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So you're saying that people that play more than you and therefore have a higher light than you shouldn't keep their bonus because you dont think its fair?
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[i]fair[/i]...? Its [i]fair[/i] that people can have a damage boost in a PVP mode just by mindlessly farming bounties....?
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But flip that around, it's fair that people have a power bonus in those activities because they simply got luckier than others? I'd rather have the bounty farming.
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Edited by Vertillian: 2/8/2020 8:41:39 PMHmmm, so no skill, no effort farming should provide rewards.... but actual in game accomplishments shouldn't? Really digging the logic there 👍😅👏 Oh and pinnacle rewards cap at 10 power.... I've seen people with 1000+ last banner.... from just [i]farming[/i]....
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The accomplishments part is the iffy part about that argument. You could have two guardians do the [i]exact same content[/i] and one come out marginally more powerful because of RNG, which was basically the story of D1 Y1 in a nutshell. The artifact is basically the rising tide that lifts all boats
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And yet if you removed its effect in Iron Banner, it would relegate people's potential advantage to a maximum of 970.... luck would make only a minor impact 😅👍 You are talking 1 or 2 power difference, as opposed to 20 to 30.... RNG is annoying, sure... but that is an indictment of the pinnacle system, and a separate discussion entirely
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If you remove it you're putting peoples power progression at the hands of rng, which is just never a great idea. That alienates everyone who plays as the 960-970 grind would be the embodiment of the hamster wheel grind x3 if you play all 3 classes.
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Edited by Vertillian: 2/8/2020 11:27:36 PMOMG how are you not getting this concept!? WE ARE DISCUSSING TWO MODES! NOT THE ENTIRE GAME. READ THE WHOLE POST It would have no impact on [i]progression[/i]. It would simply make TWO elements of the game have more balance.
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So you plan to disable the artifact for just light enabled pvp modes? Do you expect people to keep track of both light levels? It just becomes confusing to players as they finish up their 980 nightfalls at 982 then hop into IB at 964? Just keep it as one light level. It's also not about if its hard to remember your LL changes, it's just when its added on top of all the other micromanagement of your armor, armor mods and stats that it just becomes another thing to account for.
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[quote]So you plan to disable the artifact for just light enabled pvp modes? Do you expect people to keep track of both light levels? It just becomes confusing to players as they finish up their 980 nightfalls at 982 then hop into IB at 964? Just keep it as one light level. It's also not about if its hard to remember your LL changes, it's just when its added on top of all the other micromanagement of your armor, armor mods and stats that it just becomes another thing to account for.[/quote] I don't [i]plan[/i] to do anything... and do you not even notice the power level on your armour/weapons? How is this even an argument? Why would the OP suggest disabling power in a playlist that doesn't enable it!? How is this concept even difficult!? Wow, just wow.
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It's not a difficult concept it's just one that adds more confusion to the overall load of managing your level.
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A) It really doesn't take [i]management[/i] B) It tells you your current power and how much is added by the artifact already C) So you don't want an in game change that might be a benefit to game balance, simply because it would add almost zero complexity to something that isn't even complex?
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You forget how stupid people can be. Do you really think this change would be made and people wouldnt complain about their light level being reduced? You have to design the game to the lowest common denominator these days.
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[quote]You forget how stupid people can be. Do you really think this change would be made and people wouldnt complain about their light level being reduced? You have to design the game to the lowest common denominator these days.[/quote] That's why most companies make the effort to [i]explain[/i] things in game, with tutorials or helpful hints. And again, it wouldn't LOWER it. It would simply DISABLE the artifact which is RAISING IT. Does that mean that everyone was epically confused at the start of this season when their power was reduced? It's already in the game with the seasonal reset! It has already been explained! It's not exactly hard to grasp that my Titan isn't ACTUALLY 979 power.
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Um... yeah? You can do the same thing, they put in more time to get more benefits. And as a result, they should be able to use those benefits
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Smh, talk about missing the point 😅
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Care to elaborate then? So I can be enlightened to your thinking?
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It's nothing to do with [i]fair[/i]... it's to do with actual effort, what quantities reward, and actual balance in a very broken sandbox... the OP was perfectly fine with the ten levels gained through actually playing content... it's the additional power levels rewarded for just grinding bounties... that can give an advantage to people through no [i]actual[/i] achievement, other than having more free time available... But hey, let's just boil that down to a simple, whiny question of [i]fairness[/i]. You do you
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Yep because you can do that too
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Look at you, quite happily ignoring the point 😏 You must be so proud....
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How is it Ignoring it its completely fair
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Because the point is regarding [i]balance[/i]. the pinnacle rewards that are gained by achieving something, would remain... but the artifact, that can be simply farmed through bounties would just be disabled in power enabled playlists.... it has nothing to do with [i]fair[/i] 😏 So yep, he was ignoring the point..... and so are you
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I am saying in light enabled skill based modes the artifacts light bonus should be disabled. Not the light someone has actually gotten to before the artifact kicks in. Even simply making it so the actual highest light that can be achieved through actual pinnacle gear, not just having more time to grind bounties. Obviously this is only in those modes.
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Ah. I see now. I read it the wrong way
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Protect me cone!
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I got you fam
