[quote]Loot boxes and other gambling mechanics in a game with a 13+ age certificate is toxic and borderline illegal[/quote] All loot boxes in games are now actually illegal in most countries. That's part of why Bungie removed Bright Engrams, which were really only considered loot boxes if you squinted really hard, tilted your head, and blocked out logic [quote]The game used to even have a roulette wheel equivalent called the “prismatic matrix”[/quote] You couldn't buy the prismatic matrix, so it wasn't any type of loot box or gambling mechanic. If anything, it is akin to going to a county fair and spinning the free prize wheel that could give you a pencil or koozie [quote]This is old news but does not make it any less disgraceful[/quote] Again, most people preferred the old system. You earned engrams so fast that people rarely, if ever, had to buy anything, especially with dupe protection [quote]Is gambling legal now for kids? Har har[/quote] -.- [quote]Now to top it off the current “season pass” which plenty of people have paid for allows you to unlock limited time content (which you have already paid for so should be in no way limed) by either putting many hours in during that season or paying a second time for said content. The price is a snip of course at only $1 per rank and 100 ranks, now that’s RANK.[/quote] Correct. You paid for access to the full season, which included giving you the ability to unlock additional content content. If you didn't put in the time to actually do it, you can also pay outright for it without spending the time to grind. Think of it like this: You digitally rent a movie, and you start watching it. You like it, but for whatever reason you pause it and say you'll come back to it, but by the time the rental is due back, you still haven't finished it. The rental company is under no necessity to say "Hey, hang onto this and finish it whenever you like" because you paid to rent it for a certain time frame. You can pay to rent it again and finish it (akin to paying for ranks), you can straight up buy the movie instead of rent it (also akin to paying for ranks), or you can move on and rent another movie and budget your time properly to actually finish it. I play only a couple hours a night and have hit nearly rank 210 without once grinding bounties, just grabbing some for whatever activity I wanted to do. The $1/rank cost is there because, if it were purchasable for in-game currency, the people that didn't have the time to grind for ranks probably also didn't have the time to grind for currency. It can't just be fully unlocked for free at the end of the season, as the incentive to play and earn rewards would be gone. Just budget your time properly and you'll get it done. At a hyper moderate pace of one rank/hour, it would take you 100 hours of playtime. Over this roughly 2 month season, that's a little more than 1.5 hours a day. If you have the time for 3-5 hours each weekend day, you don't even have to play every day during the week

[quote]Loot boxes and other gambling mechanics in a game with a 13+ age certificate is toxic and borderline illegal. The game used to even have a roulette wheel equivalent called the “prismatic matrix”. This is old news but does not make it any less disgraceful. Is gambling legal now for kids? Har har Now to top it off the current “season pass” which plenty of people have paid for allows you to unlock limited time content (which you have already paid for so should be in no way limed) by either putting many hours in during that season or paying a second time for said content. The price is a snip of course at only $1 per rank and 100 ranks, now that’s RANK. Does anyone want to defend this company anymore? I feel like I am flogging a dead horse. PS I did genuinely love this company when they made the Halo games.[/quote] I’m not going to say that the Battle Pass is Gambling or anything cause it’s not. But Time Gating everything and exploiting FOMO is definitely Psychological Manipulation in every way. Cause Bungie has realized Fear tactics work so they FOMO everything. The Undying Seal? I want that Seal but after December 10th, that Seal is gone forever. Bungie by Time Gating stuff and making it unable to be obtainable after the Season is up, Bungie is punishing people who have lives and can’t dedicate 4-8 hours a week to max the Battle Pass out, getting the Seals etc. due to life getting busy. Like I always say. Bungie designs Destiny for the Hardcore Freeloaders and Streamers. Us Working Class Casuals are given the finger by Bungie.

[quote]Loot boxes and other gambling mechanics in a game with a 13+ age certificate is toxic and borderline illegal. The game used to even have a roulette wheel equivalent called the “prismatic matrix”. This is old news but does not make it any less disgraceful. Is gambling legal now for kids? Har har Now to top it off the current “season pass” which plenty of people have paid for allows you to unlock limited time content (which you have already paid for so should be in no way limed) by either putting many hours in during that season or paying a second time for said content. The price is a snip of course at only $1 per rank and 100 ranks, now that’s RANK. Does anyone want to defend this company anymore? I feel like I am flogging a dead horse. PS I did genuinely love this company when they made the Halo games.[/quote] Load of shit Looking at your guardians it seems like you prioritize your time elsewhere and that’s fine, but get out of here with that noise because you’d like seasonal content unlocked with zero effort

How can you call anyone else toxic scum with a post like this? I'm not even reading it, I'll just assume you're a douche bag based on the title.

eh? crying for ranks? is just an option for who can't play the game more than 10 minutes every day , not even close to a problem

You play everyday and just want attention. We get it. Same old shit.

Actually, Bungie went away from the loot boxes (New bright engrams and event engrams) and now favor direct purchases.

*COMMUNITY enough with the toxic BS, we get it you're scum

By definition all loot games and games with rng elements are gambling From borderlands to pokemon to destiny Please feel free to step down from your soap box

They said the season pass content wouldn’t stay after the season. If you didn’t get it then it’s your fault and they didn’t let you buy ranks till the tail end of the season.

You can't even get new cosmetics through loot boxes anymore, only by direct purchase, and this has always felt like an intentional move by Bungie to lean away from something that may soon be regulated in even more countries.