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11/7/2019 10:41:26 PM
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Are you willing to admit that your belief in science is a form of faith?
Strictly speaking, science is meant to operate as a methodological way of interpretating our senses. But people make it so much more than that, they speak of Science with a capital "S" as if it will solve our problems, save the planet, and exalt mankind to a new plane of being. Just watch any documentary to see the overtones of awe and metaphysical wonder that scientific findings are supposed to elicit. It has little difference from the awe inspiring content one finds in church. As a flat earther I subscribe to a strict empiricism that is more than Science. It trusts the sense, not the methodology of how the senses are used. That we see is enough. Do not treat your ability to sense the world as equal to belief in God. Science can't fill that void. Stop worshipping at the alter of Science...
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If you say science is a forum of faith. Does that mean mathematic, Language class, engineering, etc. are a forum of faith. No
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See, this how you bait the fish... by chumming the hell out of the water.
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Here we go again... [spoiler]welcome back ma dude[/spoiler]
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Depends but overall no. science is a big range of things. I wouldn't say that me believing water is made of two hydrogen and one oxygen atoms is faith. That is proven fact. But then when it comes to theories like the expansion of space and stuff, scientists themselves would never claim it's proven or fact so those things need some opinion, which could be conceived as a form of 'faith' in certain definitions. But that wouldn't be the best word to use.
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Oh my lord...he’s back
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Sure. I'll never meet Newton, Hawking, Darwin, Pythagoras, ect ect. Because they're dead. I have no idea if they truly were the ones who came up with the ideas deemed theirs. But I can take their work and do it myself. I can see that, and this is definitely a simplification of true physics, that Force = Mass * Acceleration, that animals adapt to their niches, and that chemical reactions occur when this are added to each other. I can see that these discovers sometimes were made at the same time on different continents leading to the same conclusion, where as with religion everyone thinks they have the true God. And you can kind of do that with the bible and presumably other religions. Follow the guidelines of helping others, loving your neighbors, respect your parents, ect ect and you may feel that you have lived your best possible life. And as long as that shit doesn't negatively effect the people around you whatever. But I would argue that if we're making our decisions based on faith we should [i]still[/i] look to Science over religion for the majority of the aspects of our life. Science has allowed man to live longer through medicine, survive diseases that massacred our ancestors through vaccines, provide the food we have in abundance, and even this website has its basis in someone's education. So if you wanna believe in God, by all means. But if you're only gonna put your faith in one thing you don't understand and reject all others, maybe look to the process that even let us get to this stage in the first place.
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5 RepliesWithout faith in something, whether it be capitalism, Buddha, Gods, or science, mankind inevitably consumes its weak, at a rate more appropriate to nature’s intention. Tl;dr We have these big ol brains but if they’re not directed to something deemed “good,” even if wasteful and inefficient, then I’m really afraid to admit that we become sharp rational savages quite quickly. Probably until we form another faith in something irrational or superstitious again. Yeh
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Define faith. If it is belief without or in spite of evidence, as I’d define it, then obviously the answer is no.
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The flat earth stuff is interesting. It does require proper rebuttals rather than immediate ridicule.[spoiler]What does a flat earther call a snow globe?[/spoiler][spoiler]A snow dome[/spoiler]
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11 RepliesLadies and gentlemen, boys and girls and the millions of people at home watching from around the (flat) world! I ask you, are you ready? I said, ARE YOUR READY!!!! THEN GIVE A WARM ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THE ONE TRUE MASTER OF THE KNOWN FRISBEE, KRISHNA'S PROPHET!!!
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Fine line between science and majik, faith is handing destiny over to something else... Majik is the belief individual controls own destiny.
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In the end, religions, sciences, and beliefs would not matter, humanity won’t last long enough to see the answer to most of the universe... Prophets can prophet, while scientists can science.... but in the end we end up in the same place, same condition... dead....
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3 Replies... I love all the dumbasses taking this as real... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]
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Nothing says science and religion can't coexist. Science is the laws of the universe, how everything and anything works. Who's to say that these laws weren't created by a deity.
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oh no
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Peaches after losing the election^^
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Why did it have to be you of all the users from a few years ago coming back
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1 ReplyEdited by Vilhelmus II: 11/8/2019 8:59:49 AMI suppose this place has become so trite lately that it was inevitable that someone would need to resort to recycling old theatrics. How rousing.
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1 ReplyEdited by dramund3: 11/8/2019 2:13:19 PMNo because I believe in alcoholism[spoiler]I mean alchemy alcoholism is just a hobby[/spoiler]
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Atheism is a faith, because it is the belief that science will one day verify what it now debunks. Most notably, abiogenesis. Scientist Louis Pasteur dismantled the notion of life from lifelessness when he disproved spontaneous generation. But, atheists have been ignoring this for over a century. They are desperately hoping that Pasteur's fundamentally sound principles are somehow wrong, because they cut the legs out from under their faith. But no, science is not a faith, unless you ask it to do something it wasn't meant to do.
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2 RepliesI believe in the power of dance, is that relevant?
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Spock is the best character in StarTrek cmm.
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I could say it m standing on an enormous serpent that died long ago.
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7 RepliesCzechoslovakia
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2 RepliesI believe Terry Bogard is scary when you’re at 50% and he’s at 100%. That’s a Buster Wolf confirm waiting to happen...
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