[quote]only making eververse content.[/quote] Garden of salvation raid Vex offense New exotics Armor for the mentioned activities Ironbanner sets Weapons from eris New "ritual weapons" New dungeon Nightmare hunts I dont recall those being part of eververse.....

In terms of making armor* my apologies. Isn’t the raid armor just a hand me down from eververse? If I’ve heard right then there’s only about two new sets that aren’t eververse so that’s not exactly impressive.

Meanwhile there's only one set thats locked to silver. Going by a ratio, you get more from playing the game vs buying from eververse.

If we’re talking about armor, then you get exactly one more set by playing the game than you do through eververse. I wouldn’t exactly call that impressive or even mediocre. Fact of the matter is, bungie spends way too much time making things for eververse, it’s completely stupid to let bungie get away with having the only consistently updated vendor be the microtransactions vendor.

Only one? You sure? Dreambane is from the moon Garden of salvation has a set Substituional is from the free pass thus gained from just doing any activity that rewards xp Phenotype Plasticity armor from paid pass grouped with the season you purchased and again earned from any activity that gives xp Iron will from iron banner Empyrean Cartographer is the only one requiring dust or silver meaning you need to go through eververse. By that count its 5 vs 1 eververse set. While it sucks that eververse is the only vendor getting update, eververse isnt the only place that rewards gear, which is the purpose of vendors. Lets not make it sound as if there aren't weapons given from the raid, eris, vex offense, plus the ritual weapons.

I like how the first two sets actually have nothing to do with eververse, then you go spouting off for the next two sets about how they’re gained from the season pass, especially when one of those two is from the paid pass (which you buy with silver just like eververse crap, therefore technically an eververse thing). When I made that comment I was unaware of the fact that there was going to be iron banner. So it’s actually three to one, not five to one at least relative to when I made my comment there, that being a time when I didn’t know about iron banner. No matter what way you slice it though, those numbers aren’t impressive. For a game that loooooves to have trailers showcasing the armor and weapons, it’s honestly pretty sad how few choices you have, eververse or not.

THE GAME IS F R E E

Get that out of here. A lot of people, I'd bet at least half, bought this game before it went free. Some of us like myself who or D1 veterans, even bought the limited or collectors edition, between $100+ and $250+, because D1 ended in such an amazing way and we how no idea that D2 was going to be a complete joke at launch and ended up getting screwed. All the digital content we paid the extra money for was made free and we have to then pay additional $75 for the two DLC's seasons of content we don't get.

As someone who also paid for all of that as well, we paid for early access. You, like myself, wanted to have Destiny on release from year 1, along with all of the content as it came out all the way through Shadowkeep. I would agree with and consider your argument if it were a case of Shadowkeep and each Season Pass became free 1 month after release. The person your replying to is an idiot. The game is definitely not free, but complaining about about people getting something "FREE" that we paid for is also childish. We paid to have D2 3 years ago. We paid to have Y2 season pass on release. I will give you that it is stupid that the Forges, Gambit, and Menagerie was made free to all already, but again, we got the content on release. If people would be less concerned with what other people are getting and reflect more on what they got out of what they paid then comments like this wouldn't exist. Regardless of what you spent on "Collectors" editions or whatever that came with extra shit, this is what D2 cost upon launch. Base game - $60 Year 1 pass - $30 (if I remember correctly. correct me if I'm wrong) Forsaken - $60 Year 2 pass - $35 Shadowkeep $35 Year 3 pass - $25 Assuming you bought everything on release, the actual game itself has cost $245. You've spent 324 hours playing the game. Please tell me where else you're going to get entertainment for $0.75 an hour. To sit there and complain that $90ish ($125 if you want to be real picky about the Y2Pass) was made available for free 2 years later (for the first year) is kind of entitled. The fact that new people are getting something for free doesn't take away the fact that you got 300+ hours of entertainment for less than $1 an hour.

Yes, we veterans got screwed in the end but new players get base plus the crappy dlcs for free and forsaken (and it's 3 seasonal activities) is included with both the $35 and $60 version of shadow-keep both include the first season but the $60 version includes all seasons for the year and unlike WOW your not charged 30 bucks a month. They probably should have given veterans some freebies like maybe equal or half the cost in silver coins at minimum but my rule on something is $1 an hour: If I can get 60 hours in a $60 game I considered it equally spent unless it's really good and/or one and done like undertale. im 78 hours as of this post and that's for shadowkeep alone. and don't compare job wages to a -blam!-ing game go play EVE if your going to pull that shit because I can guarantee you didn't get those kind of moneys worth from games you liked unless you put well over 2,000 hours into EACH GAME, so unless you don't have a job at all your not seeing those numbers anytime soon.

Well depending on where you look depends on my time. According to Xbox it's 471 hours. But regardless I hear what you're saying. I wasn't saying what I did to suggest that those who bought it deserve something more or deserve better. As you put it, it was in the past and the past is the past. I simply meant it as to invalidate the Art3mis' comment (although admittedly I did come off a bit strong.😅).