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Edited by Rogueseiferv2:
9/18/2019 11:47:01 PM
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Some serious questions
1. Why does eververse get more attention than the rest of the game?
2. How do you justify charging money for the dlc and season pass while also having micro transactions?
3. If power creep is a real thing, why give us the option to increase our power past power cap with the use of artifacts?
4. Is having 1 million players better for you financially than 14 million?
5. Are forced “you had to be there moments” better than the happy accidental ones?
6. If you’re now building from the bedrock, what was the last 5 years?
7. If you’re not dictating how we play why nerf our gear until it’s obsolete?
8. Why on earth has David Samuel not been in any of your videos lately???
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[quote]BL3 has plenty of microtransactions[/quote] No it doesn’t. Can’t buy Iridium with real money, can’t buy the Cosmetics with real money etc. you earn the Iridium and you spend the Iridium at Earle’s Store.
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That's still not enough money. They probably pay 3 million a week just on people's salaries. Combine that with all the bills and design work they do, and that money is gone in a year. And who knows they might rent their equipment? That's more bills. The point is we don't know because we don't work there.
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I’m not sure you’re aware how far 500 million plus money for two base games, 6 dlcs and micro transactions goes bud It’s nice you blindly defend a company that outright lies to its customers, but it’s seriously misplaced loyalty
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Obviously you aren’t aware the cash from the Chinese company wasn’t for them to put into destiny lmaooo
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I didn’t mention cash from a Chinese company....🙄
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Wasn’t responding to you 😘
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Well you know we all have different opinions.. you may not like Destiny while on the other hand Destiny saved my life, was the only thing that kept me busy while addiction was clawing at me. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, or I am.
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Mate destiny played a huge part in shaping my life too, that’s why it’s sad what destiny has become now. Doesn’t even feel like destiny anymore to be honest. D1 though....
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They should've just expanded on D1
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Agreed
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Show me the part where I said free then come back to me with what you just said
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[quote]Show me the part where I said free then come back to me with what you just said[/quote] It was implied. The answer to number 1 and 2 is because Bungie have 10s of millions of operating costs PER MONTH. Don’t like it? Doesn’t matter. Thems the facts. It costs them several hundred million dollars per year to keep you entertained.
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Nothing about free was implied at all. A simple question asking how they justify 3 forms taking money from their customers does not imply free. It simply implies how do you justify it See the trouble is, at no point do any of those questions have an attitude of entitlement, trolling or ignorance about them. They are legitimate questions(especially number 8) regarding concerns more and more people are having. But people like you come along making false accusations, trying to be some Internet tough guy? Showing complete ignorant support to a company that would completely ignore any good feedback you have them to make 1 quick dollar o a bad idea
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Also, this isn’t the place where Bungie reviews feedback. This is a troll haven, though I agree your post is not trollish. And number 8 is certainly a good question
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[quote]Also, this isn’t the place where Bungie reviews feedback. This is a troll haven, though I agree your post is not trollish. And number 8 is certainly a good question[/quote] Yeah, Twitch and YouTube is their place for Feedback since Streamers and YouTubers are all they listen to.
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[quote][quote]Also, this isn’t the place where Bungie reviews feedback. This is a troll haven, though I agree your post is not trollish. And number 8 is certainly a good question[/quote] Yeah, Twitch and YouTube is their place for Feedback since Streamers and YouTubers are all they listen to.[/quote] It’s Reddit and twitter actually. Much larger audiences and actual constructive conversation. There are some good posts here but they’re drowned out by the army of blithering babies who don’t know how to communicate to adults.
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[quote][quote][quote]Also, this isn’t the place where Bungie reviews feedback. This is a troll haven, though I agree your post is not trollish. And number 8 is certainly a good question[/quote] Yeah, Twitch and YouTube is their place for Feedback since Streamers and YouTubers are all they listen to.[/quote] It’s Reddit and twitter actually. Much larger audiences and actual constructive conversation. There are some good posts here but they’re drowned out by the army of blithering babies who don’t know how to communicate to adults.[/quote] Reddit and Twitter are also dominated by Streamers and YouTubers. And Reddit and Twitter are nothing but Bungie/Destiny Apologists who defend Bungie’s bad decisions that are going to kill this franchise.
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It’s not going to die...it’s doing fine...people have been saying Destiny is dead since it launched. Come on now
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[quote]It’s not going to die...it’s doing fine...people have been saying Destiny is dead since it launched. Come on now[/quote] Well it is just very slowly. so slowly that it isn’t seen by most and seen by some. The more people wake up to the reality that Content they pay for will be removed after a Season, people won’t buy Shadowkeep nor it’s other Seasons cause spending money on Temporary Content will be seen as throwing money down the drain and being wasted and people don’t like wasting money.
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[quote][quote]It’s not going to die...it’s doing fine...people have been saying Destiny is dead since it launched. Come on now[/quote] Well it is just very slowly. so slowly that it isn’t seen by most and seen by some. The more people wake up to the reality that Content they pay for will be removed after a Season, people won’t buy Shadowkeep nor it’s other Seasons cause spending money on Temporary Content will be seen as throwing money down the drain and being wasted and people don’t like wasting money.[/quote] I’m actually excited that we’ll actually WIN a battle for once and remove a threat. That has never happened. The story/lore/world building implications of this are very intriguing.
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I know right! Man I miss seeing how excited he gets from his creations. Need to get hold of that emote of him
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[quote]Nothing about free was implied at all. A simple question asking how they justify 3 forms taking money from their customers does not imply free. It simply implies how do you justify it See the trouble is, at no point do any of those questions have an attitude of entitlement, trolling or ignorance about them. They are legitimate questions(especially number 8) regarding concerns more and more people are having. But people like you come along making false accusations, trying to be some Internet tough guy? Showing complete ignorant support to a company that would completely ignore any good feedback you have them to make 1 quick dollar o a bad idea[/quote] I just told you how they justify it. Doesn’t matter if you agree. And you don’t get to decide what others perceive as implied or not. That’s how perception works
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But that’s not justification when compared to how other games operate their revenue making is it Gta - micro transactions and free dlc updates Fortnite - micro transactions and free updates Division - micro transactions and free dlc Anthem - micro transactions and free dlc There are many other games that have a similar revenue layout to these 4. Destiny however has paid dlc and paid micro transactions while also introducing a premium(paid for) battle pass So tell me how that justification works.... oh wait it’s because activision aren’t funding them anymore right? Wrong. Activision leaving frees up the money they were taking from bungie which in turn means bungie now effectively have more cash at their disposal
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[quote]But that’s not justification when compared to how other games operate their revenue making is it [quote]Gta - micro transactions and free dlc updates Fortnite - micro transactions and free updates Division - micro transactions and free dlc Anthem - micro transactions and free dlc [/quote] Don’t forget Warframe, Dauntless, Apex Legends and Paladins have MTX and all Expansions/DLC is completely free as well. This model is the best model in my opinion and wish Bungie would follow suit. If Destiny was completely Free to Play like the Games I mentioned, I would actually be okay with Eververse and spending money to finish out my Battle Pass if I can’t finish it within a Season etc. Bungie would see an influx of cash and people would be more inclined to spend money on Eververse. I know I would buy from here more. There are many other games that have a similar revenue layout to these 4. Destiny however has paid dlc and paid micro transactions while also introducing a premium(paid for) battle pass So tell me how that justification works.... oh wait it’s because activision aren’t funding them anymore right? Wrong. Activision leaving frees up the money they were taking from bungie which in turn means bungie now effectively have more cash at their disposal[/quote]
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Yeah I get what you’re saying...my response would be: GTA: Everything in that game is micro transactions and they even have a real money casino for in game currency. That was one of their recent DLCs. So I would only consider that free if you don’t use it. But that’s a crazy MTX design, I don’t know of any other games that have something like that, it’s banned in many countries due to gambling laws. Fortnite: Strictly free to play, everything else MTX. I don’t have much to say about Fortnite, that model went viral and they were making a billion dollars per month on mtx. PER MONTH. That’s crazy. Division 2: They made all year 1 DLC free as a show of good faith to bring back players that left during the disaster of the first division launch. Wouldn’t be a bad idea for Bungie to do something similar and communicate it as such. But the only time Bungie has really been in as dire a situation was during Curse of Osiris. Anthem: Well this is just an effing train wreck. I actually loved the gameplay until the sheer shallowness of the actual game design reered its ugly head. I don’t think there’s really any DLC planned. There was a cataclysm event thing, but I don’t know if another game that flopped this hard I get what you’re saying, those are just my thoughts on your examples. I guess the reason Bungie does this is just sheer operating costs. The closest example you gave was Division, but Ubisoft has such a refined open world engine that I imagine they don’t need as many bodies to maintain it. I think a lot of Bungie’s development challenges stem from their engine. The “content is hard to make” comment to me means it’s hard to make on their engine.
